- cross-posted to:
- gaming@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- gaming@beehaw.org
Collective shout seems to have expanded its scope: games like cult classic Fear And Hunger have been removed from Itch.io, while horror game VILE: Exhumed has been delisted from Steam just a week after launch.
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Man, I knew it was only a matter of time but I didn’t think it would be this bad, this soon.
Fear & Hunger is a goddamn masterpiece. Yes, it has depictions of nonconsensual sexual acts. It’s in keeping with the lore of a world that is truly fucked even beyond our reality. It’s an integral part of the worldbuilding, and it is by no means glorified.
First, I don’t understand why processors give a fuck. Do they imagine people are going to just stop using credit in protest of how other people spend their money? Tell me another fucking joke.
Second, I’m not a game developer, but I suddenly want to make a horror game that includes graphic, exploitive, gratuitous depictions of everything they complain about. And name the game Collective Shriek.
The worm that keeps getting put into payment processor’s brains is that they might somehow be held criminally liable for games people purchase. It’s like telling a bus driver that they might be liable because they gave a ride to someone who robbed a store.
That what I just dont get about this.
If payment processors think they are liable because these games cause harm then where does it stop? Supermarkets sell cigarettes and so on…NOW that they’ve started curating, that has become way more likely to actually happen. They could have claimed to be a neutral carrier before. Actively filtering means they’ve decided to take on that responsibility, and the consequences for missing stuff.
They’re morons
I hate corpos as much as the next guy, but I don’t think that’s a good rule to have.
It should also be bullshit in most if not all countries.
Involving the MasterCard Mafia in your puritanical crusade is next to criminal. The only solution is to [CONTENT REMOVED FOR VIOLATING RESTRICTIONS AGAINST ADVOCATING VIOLENCE].
Called it. Soon all we’ll only be able to play baby games like Elmo’s big adventure puzzle book land, or something like that.
It’ll be some “evolution is the devil” creationism bullshit, because this is a Christian fascist movement.
They hate Elmo, too.
What I see is a new niche opening up for a website offering game sales through alternative payment processors.
So that’s how it works. Maybe people should also start harassing payment processors for weapon purchases, buying fossil fuels, oversized SUVs and whatnot until they stop caring.
The problem is that the people who care about the real problems aren’t completely fucking insane like collective shout and their ilk.
Maybe we should retaliate.
The Collective Shout logo looks like a butthole.
Fear and Hunger appears to be back.
If only there was a method of paying people in a private and decentralized way, possibly maybe even… cryp"SCAM!"
“SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM”
sits back down
edit: fuck American fascism! hugs the dollar for dear life
so which is it? 🤔
“Man, I don’t understand why unregulated currencies are unpopular! I’m going to dismiss the heaping mountain of examples of it being abused with no possible recourse as just people being unreasonable in their dislike! That’ll convince the masses!”
I got robbed!
blames the currency
“God forbid I take responsibility for my own recklessness!”
The issues are layered but the core aspect is that everyone can get scammed and banks have protections for getting your money stolen while crypto doesn’t.
But the more visible issue is just how the unregulated aspect of it being used to scam people predominantly has marred the topic for so many people to the point where people just want to stay away from it all. If anything I think it ends up being a good example for how people need regulation and we can’t just have anarchy because people will take advantage of other people.
To add a metaphor, sure it’s not the gun that does the killing it’s the human, but regulating how the gun gets used does help with gun deaths a lot.
If people had used cryptocurrency as a currency instead of as a “it’s totally not a security, we swear, even though we’re only saying that to evade SEC regulations a little longer” there’d be a lot fewer people calling it a scam.
For sixteen years, crypto’s only use cases seemed to be buying illegal goods and securities fraud. Finally, we have another use case presenting: perfectly legal transactions that credit card companies have gotten cold feet about.
There also has been cases where people increasingly used cryptocurrencies as their national currency was subject to instability and severe inflation. Usually the governments cracked down on it hard, like in Turkiye.
The SEC had every opportunity to make up it’s fucking mind for years, but even after repeated promptings from all the big crypto exchanges, they kept putting things off and randomly throwing lawsuits for violations for things they were asked for guidance on.
Also, this is the exact kind of transaction they had in mind when they created the tech, but everyone decided it was only ever for drugs, because that’s what the Wall St owned media told them to think
Not every country has a corrupt securities administration. Don’t push your third-world Americanism on others like its their problem.
Riiiight, let the fascists lead by example? lmao
Not every country has a corrupt securities administration.
Man, imagine how nice it would be if this were true.
I don’t care what gets delisted, I’m not buying your fucking monkeys
Yeah, I’m just going to a riot instead, like God intended
What does it have to do with monkeys ?
NFT is a very small subset of “Cryptos”.
On a more serious note, you really do prefer VISA MasterCard to dictate what is to be censored or not rather than using crypto currencies ?
I would rather do all my online payments with direct bank transfers or even mail-in cheques than use crypto.
I think the biggest problem is getting any crypto which usually involves an exchange which is also dependent on the payment processors you are trying to avoid
Do you think it happen randomly that payment processors are unavoidable to get crypto money ? Because it’s clearly on purpose and a way to control a market they didn’t have any leverage on.
Still the take above of “I would rather support payment processors than Cryptos” still sound super dumb to me. People are so extreme on their assessment of technologies here. There is no nuance. AI is all bad, crypto is all bad that’s pretty much the tone here.
Until one emerges that’s even slightly stable enough to use as a secure currency (and not a stablecoin…), there can never be the kind of broad adoption introducing an entire separate exchange paradigm to the global economy would require. And that’s aside from the technical requirements that aren’t met - there’s no crypto network that could even come close to handling the load put on ex: the ACH, meaning awful lag on every transaction.
It’s just not there yet, and pretending like extreme reactions to a comment that’s both condescending and insulting to the users who disagree with you are unreasonable - or a reflection of nuanced opinions on cryptocurrencies in general- is disingenuous enough to be concerning. Surely you must see the flaws in how you’re behaving here.
