https://archive.is/cDNF2

The hope is that other countries, reassured by that commitment, will follow China’s example rather than America’s.

  • Siegfried@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    18 hours ago

    I feel like this is more propaganda than anything real. Last time I read about this, the scale was the number of patents for “green energy” and china was clearly ahead but particularly on batteries… I dont consider EV to be what will save mankind from the he’ll we are creating

    • RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      13 hours ago

      Have you considered the possibility that this feeling you’re experiencing might also be the result of propaganda that you failed to critically examine?

      • Siegfried@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        This is a pretty shallow take, have you consider not looking the world in black and white?

        All countries do this type of commitments with doing something against climate change. Some do more or less, but most if not all end up missing their own targets. Global temperature change following the worst predictions is kind of a sad proof* of it.

        Unless you call the article anti China propaganda, all it says to sustain “China is leading green energy” is Xi commiting to things. I don’t deny China is advancing steadily on green energy, but the article sounds like swallow propaganda.

        • 3abas@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          11 hours ago

          They were responding to this:

          I dont consider EV to be what will save mankind from the he’ll we are creating

          You don’t consider? That’s a statement of opinion driven by feelings, not a statement of fact backed by data .

          Anyway, EVs was not the only thing they’re doing.

          all it says to sustain “China is leading green energy” is Xi commiting to things. I don’t deny China is advancing steadily on green energy, but the article sounds like swallow propaganda.

          It also says “It should be pointed out that reducing emissions at the pace promised by Beijing means a decline of about 1 percent a year. According to an analysis by William Lamb of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, this is a slower pace than that held by most industrialized nations. Italy, for example, has reduced them by an average of 3.2 percent every 12 months since their peak in 2006; the United Kingdom by an average of 2.8 percent since 2004; France by 2.3 percent.”

          And

  • whiwake@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    22 hours ago

    Meanwhile China is cutting the green budgets and people forget to talk about that because it’s more fun to use climate action as a political weapon.

    • Bullerfar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      21 hours ago

      Isn’t it because most of their renewable energy sources are produced by themselves, and is cheap as fuck compared to build a new coal plant. Easier to quickly scale solar and wind, rather than building burning plants? = no need of any labelled and beaurocratic “green budgets” Anymore. Because renewables already IS the prefered energy source. (because of price per MwH)

      • whiwake@lemmy.cafe
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        12 hours ago

        No they just slashed the budget for it. There were articles a week or two ago.

        • 3abas@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          11 hours ago

          The articles only covered the budget cuts, so you refuse to entertain a reason not mentioned in those articles?

          From this article: “Xi Jinping’s speech included a commitment to reach 3,600 gigawatts (GW) of installed wind and solar capacity by 2035, six times the country’s 2020 figures. This is already the leading country in terms of installed renewable power, and a giant on the technology front as well, with universities churning out environmental and climate tech research at full speed, and attracting scientists from abroad across numerous fields. He also announced a commitment to an energy mix with more than 30 percent renewables.”

          Now reread the comment you replied to.

          • whiwake@lemmy.cafe
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            10 hours ago

            China is going to stop funding green projects. This was weeks ago.

            • 3abas@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              8 hours ago

              FFS, stop repeating your vague claim and share one of those articles you think backs it up…

              • Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                6 hours ago

                Dude, they slashed their green budget, dude. Trust me!

                Everything positive for the environment has to come from a green budget, dude. It was literally on fox news the other day!

    • Riddick3001@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      21 hours ago

      Good China is committing, maybe check this other article for another contextual framing.

      The pace of emissions reduction (about 1% per year) is slower than that of most industrialized nations, and some analysts argue that China’s targets are conditional on favorable economic and technological conditions

  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    20 hours ago

    Population collapse due to 20 years of local officials lying about births and school registrations out of fear of not meeting President Xi’s targets means far fewer consumers and less pollution