• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I am aware this is satire. But this line is a direct quote from so many people, with a completely straight dace

    There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted

    “But they could use a knife or a bat or a car!”

    Without seeing the fact that having such free access to “tools” designed for the sole purpose of killing many people in as little time as possible.

    Anyone against gun control is completely smooth brained. Anyone who complains about gun control, that the government shouldn’t control and regulate access, that they need multiple guns for “self defence” should not be allowed access to any gun.

    Another common one is

    “buh only criminals will have guns”,

    except that never happens in any other developed nation.

    Its for self defense

    Sure. From other people with guns. And not a single shooting has been stopped prevented by “good guy with gun™️”.

    /rant

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      1 year ago

      Sad watching people like you type out a bunch of nonsense as though it’s true.

      I guess that’s why people like you are so ‘up in arms’ about gun control; you’re living in a fantasy world where you think that criminals don’t have guns in other developed nations.

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        The guy who killed Shinzo Abe in Japan literally had to build the gun and was only able to do so efficiently because he was an ex-member of the JMSDF.

        That’s how hard it is to get a gun in Japan. And surprise! They have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world.

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          Nice cherrypicking.

          Thanks for supporting my point about living in a fantasy world, lol.

          And surprise! They have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world.

          It must be the guns, right? Not their culture? What about nations that ban guns but have higher homicide rates than Japan or even the U.S.?

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            What about nations that ban guns but have higher homicide rates than Japan or even the U.S.?

            The only countries that fit this definition outside Central/South America and Sub-Saharian Africa are Russia, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Palau and Kiribati.

            Literally all of Europe and all of Asia with a functioning democracy have a lower homicide rate than the US. I wouldn’t really call that “cherrypicking”.

            Is that what you’re comparing to? You think the US police would be as bad at enforcing a gun control law as the one in Kiribati?

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              So… what you’re telling me is it’s not just the guns. It’s their culture.

              Interesting. I guess we can agree that banning guns doesn’t actually reduce homicide rates if the nation has people who want to kill each other.

              I wouldn’t really call that “cherrypicking”.

              Lol, so ignoring everything that goes against your argument isn’t cherrypicking? Dang. Stay in school, son.

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                Wow, didn’t know that the entire civilized world except the US has absolutely no desire to kill each other, and all of the underdeveloped countries are full of bloodthirsty assassins.

                Guess the very similar culture of Japan, Italy and Australia must be the cause.

                It almost feels like the countries with high homicide rate despite the gun laws could have some correlation to being less civilized places with high corruption and/or inefficient law enforcement, but you definitely know better than me I guess.

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                  Dang, there you go thinking in absolutes because you want to avoid information that goes against your arguments.

                  You mentioned homicide rates. They’re not 0 on any of the continents you mentioned. Why are you arguing against me as though I think there’s no desire to kill in the nations you mentioned?

                  Homicide rates are lower in some nations than others, regardless of gun laws, because of their culture. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

                  This is my point. You will avoid any information that contradicts what you want to believe and then get mad when people don’t live in your fantasy world.