• KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    211·
    8 小时前

    So plenty of people have pointed out this tweet is satire, but similar sentiment has been shared by Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, and other “manosphere”/alt-right grifters.

    I just want to put out clearly what these men mean, and what the dog-whistle here is: They are not saying a man with a penis fucking a woman’s pussy is gay. They are saying that a man following all the acts of affection and consideration to the physical and emotional wants and needs of your partner is: effeminate, inferior, non-masculine, and therefore “gay”. This is what incels argue when they complain about “modern women” and divorce and “gold diggers”. Being anything less than an egotist, entitle, aggressive prick is “gay”; and they know just as well as their critics, that few women would take a relationship like that.

    The Turning Point USA/Heritage Foundation evangelical-type want women as Second-Class Citizens. The manosphere/incel type want women as property --[sold from father to husband] property. (Well, that’s the vision they sell. The grifters want men single and alone; shut-in and consuming their content.)

    • andros_rex@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      17 小时前

      The way the alt right has been working for the past ten years has been saying something absolutely outrageous, and then claiming it’s a joke/satire afterwords. It’s a way of introducing those ideas into the mainstream while maintaining plausible deniability. They started by “joking” that we should repeal the 19th amendment, but the goal is to shift the Overton window. Any “satire” is a fig leaf.

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    419·
    3 天前

    Let me make this loud and clear: Andrew Tate is a sex trafficking rapist that should not be allowed to live in a civil society

  • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.comEnglish
    30·
    2 天前

    Let me make this loud and clear. If you’re a gay man with a boyfriend in 2025, you’re straight.

    • musubibreakfast@lemmy.world
      27·
      2 天前

      There’s nothing more heterosexual than sex with another man. The vagina is too soft, feminine and accommodating. To raw-dog or be raw-dogged by another man takes strength, determination and perseverance. These are values that are exemplified in a healthy heterosexual relationship, therefore gay is straight and straight is gay.

  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    36·
    2 天前

    FELLAS, Is it GAY to have a girlfriend? You’re literally dating someone who likes MEN!

    FELLAS, is it GAY to breath? You’re literally breathing in shit that’s been inside other men.

    FELLAS, is it GAY to fucking EXIST? A PART OF YOU CAME OUT A MAN’S BALLS!

  • lefixxx@lemmy.world
    36·
    2 天前

    phew i was sucking dicks left and right and i was worried i was gay. But since i dont have a gf…

    • nomy@lemmy.zipEnglish
      5·
      2 天前

      Sounds like you spend a lot of time hanging out with men. Nothing straighter than some men spending quality time together.

  • kameecoding@lemmy.world
    40·
    2 天前

    It’s all about the transitive property, if you have a sex with a girl, you are having sex with all the guys she had sex with, that’s pretty gay.

    On the other hand having sex with chad who slept with plenty of women, by the transitive property you are having sex with all those women. That straight as fuck.

    • some_random_nick@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 天前

      If the first dude slept with women who slept with men, that makes him gay.
      But then the other dude sleeps with him, making him second-hand gay?
      Just like with passive smoking.

      • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        1 天前

        Obviously, assuming both the woman and the chad slept with 10 people before, the first guy is 10 gay. The second guy is (1-10)=-9 gay, which is pretty straight.

        The math doesn’t lie, I’m sorry, I don’t make the rules.

  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    26·
    2 天前

    this is like that 4chan greentext about how you can’t watch porn if you’re a fragile straight because straight porn is gay since it has a naked guy and lesbian porn is gay because it’s actually gay

    These people are morons but the ones at the top like him are psychotic. They’re purposely trying to get their “followers” isolated from anyone that may soften their views and talk sense into them. I’m sure Tate and similar “influencers” know tons of incel/mra/nofap/redpill/mde/etc types that buy into this shit soften their views considerably (and stop buying and watching shit) when they finally get a partner

    • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      8·
      2 天前

      These people are morons but the ones at the top like him are psychotic. They’re purposely trying to get their “followers” isolated from anyone that may soften their views and talk sense into them.

      Yeah that’s basically the goal here. This is classic cult tactics that are used by your classic “Drink the Koolaid” cults but also terrorist groups.

      • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        1 天前

        Wasn’t the greentext about how a woman with a penis having sex with one without a penis is the most straight? Something like hetero sex is 50% gay to watch, woman-with-penis on woman-without-penis is 25% gay, and two women-without-penis is again fully gay.

        It’s like rock paper scissors with trans and homophobia, but you have to give credit for at least having a consistent world view.

  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
    18·
    2 天前

    Andrew Tate is a very capable scammer. He says dumb shit like this such that he’ll be shared, then he’ll bring you into the sales funnel by first of all saying something that sounds very reasonable but aligns with his views in the background. This is just to get you listening and then slowly but surely he’s going to radicalise you into the online manosphere.

  • nailingjello@piefed.zipEnglish
    99·
    3 天前

    Wait, this is real? Can someone attempt to explain his rationale? Or is there some context not included?

      • Piatro@programming.devEnglish
        17·
        3 天前

        I’m only really aware of him as former (?) leader of private discords who have to pay to talk to him so this article made that idea even more ridiculous and funny than it already was!

    • Krauerking@lemy.lol
      72·
      3 天前

      Male Loneliness epidemic is really bad and they are setting up a wall for anyone that tries to leave it behind to be excluded from their friend group.

      Basically it’s a wall meant to stop men from reaching out and getting a girlfriend and keep yourself miserable and lonely so you can be further misogynistic and make it easier to continue to say and do restrictive policy on women without pushback.

      TL:DR can’t have your addict get clean or they will stop buying what you are selling.

      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
        73·
        3 天前

        I’m fairly sure that this next economic crisis we are in, makes getting a girlfriend, or even just a friend, borderline impossible. Not only do you have to fear and distrust everyone, you also have no time, energy, or money to actually interact with anyone.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          6·
          2 天前

          In times of economic crisis, friends and family are even more important. That’ll be your insurance policy without being scammed by insurance companies. People in poor countries have big families because nobody else cares for them.

          There never were “alpha wolves” in the wild. When a wolf is shunned from the group, it usually dies. The same applied to humans for most of our history, and might apply again soon.

          • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
            3·
            2 天前

            I’m trying to keep them alive right now, as more and more things unravel. I don’t know what else to do. If I quit for even one month: catastrophic consequences. Doing overtime right now. My goal is to stabilize my parents, and establish a normal life for myself. I hope my father will go through with his plan, otherwise I will just focus on my own goals.

        • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          9·
          3 天前

          you also have no time, energy, or money to actually interact with anyone.

          You dont get enough socializing paying rent every month? Because that is far more then enough interacting with humanity for me.

          Rent is due in 4 days by the way.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      33·
      3 天前

      A real man shouldn’t tie himself to a single woman. A real man should be fucking everything he can get his hands on.

      There ya go!

    • andros_rex@lemmy.worldOP
      18·
      3 天前

      Andrew Tate coerced multiple women into camming for him in a set up where he’d keep all of the money. He’s also a rapist.

      The idea of respecting a woman as a human being whose consent matters is about as alien to him as the idea that a blender or oven’s consent matters. He’s a rapist and human trafficker, but because we live in hell world, rapists and human traffickers are considered the pinnacle of human achievement by a rather significantly sized crowd.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
      15·
      3 天前

      No idea, maybe he thinks you fuck a rando and ask them to marry you that night, or maybe you are just supposed to fuck around permanently and shouldn’t ever be with a woman for more than sex… That’s my best guesses…

  • buttnugget@lemmy.world
    91·
    2 天前

    I realize this is satire, but the reason his stuff sounds insane is not just because it is, but because men are attracted to women yet do not like women.

    • FatVegan@leminal.space
      3·
      1 天前

      I worked with people who were super homophobic and just overall chauvinistic as fuck. I always said things that made them question if I was gay or not, and it was the only thing that brightened my day. I would always say things like: having sex with a woman is kinda gay, idk. Getting rammed by a big dude, now that’s manly

      • buttnugget@lemmy.world
        22·
        2 天前

        There is no way he said this literally. Maybe you should watch that video if you haven’t heard of him.

        • andros_rex@lemmy.worldOP
          82·
          2 天前

          The dude does not believe in relationships with women. He believes in fucking women (with or without their consent) and pimping them out. Having a girlfriend is acknowledging a woman as human, which is “gay,” because real men only view women as chattel. That’s what he’s saying. I’m sorry you don’t have the critical thinking skills to understand that.

          • buttnugget@lemmy.world
            15·
            1 天前

            Lmao I know who he is. Your post is satire, you stupid fuck. Saying your moral and intellectual superior lacks critical thinking skills for accurately describing your post is pathetic.

            • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
              11·
              1 天前

              Your post is satire

              Seems like everyone here understands that this post is satire, including the OP. They wouldn’t have posted it to the shitpost community if they thought otherwise.

              you stupid fuck.

              When you point one finger, three are pointing back at you.

              • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                1·
                22 小时前

                I might be the dumbest person here, but even if this is made up and supposed to be satire, this is exactly what I would expect him to say, because he would think using women rather than having a relationship is preferred. I would honeslty be shocked if he didn’t think relationships with women were gay.

              • buttnugget@lemmy.world
                1·
                1 天前

                Seems like everyone here understands

                Nope. I mentioned it in passing when accurately describing what the real issue here is, and worthless dumbfuck Ajen level intellect OP told me I had never heard of him.

                Blah blah blah

                You are also a moron.