Of course, but many socialists here use the classic definition of a liberal. Which is annoying. Basically you have to translate into “neoliberal” when they say it. And yeah it’s pretty stupid, but they don’t want to accept the “rebranding” the neoliberals have managed to pull off.
Neoliberalism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality based on money or wealth or class. Like if you are poor, your children should get worse food and education. Neoliberals believe this is morally correct. Neoliberals are not on the left, but are right wing. There are many who identify as leftists or liberals who accept neoliberal ideology because they simply can’t imagine radical change. There are many thought terminating brainworms in their heads.
This also explains why it’s so easy for neoliberals to transition to fascism. Fascism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality - based on identity like ethnicity or gender. It’s just a small hop. And the US foreign policy has been outright fascist for many decades anyway. Biden is a fascist. Hillary is a fascist. Obama is “just” a neoliberal, but fuck him too.
I have found communists here who want to rehabilitate Stalin for some insane reason. I haven’t found a single “Tankie” who thinks Russia is still socialist or who are particularly happy with the human right issues or corruption in China, but still support them because they understand realpolitik. To me it seems the divide and hate overwhelmingly comes from the (non neo) liberals. Like OP is pure hatewagoning propaganda. Nobody “likes” seeing protesters shot.
Of course, but many socialists here use the classic definition of a liberal. Which is annoying. Basically you have to translate into “neoliberal” when they say it. And yeah it’s pretty stupid, but they don’t want to accept the “rebranding” the neoliberals have managed to pull off.
Neoliberalism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality based on money or wealth or class. Like if you are poor, your children should get worse food and education. Neoliberals believe this is morally correct. Neoliberals are not on the left, but are right wing. There are many who identify as leftists or liberals who accept neoliberal ideology because they simply can’t imagine radical change. There are many thought terminating brainworms in their heads.
This also explains why it’s so easy for neoliberals to transition to fascism. Fascism can be defined as the sincere moral belief in inequality - based on identity like ethnicity or gender. It’s just a small hop. And the US foreign policy has been outright fascist for many decades anyway. Biden is a fascist. Hillary is a fascist. Obama is “just” a neoliberal, but fuck him too.
I have found communists here who want to rehabilitate Stalin for some insane reason. I haven’t found a single “Tankie” who thinks Russia is still socialist or who are particularly happy with the human right issues or corruption in China, but still support them because they understand realpolitik. To me it seems the divide and hate overwhelmingly comes from the (non neo) liberals. Like OP is pure hatewagoning propaganda. Nobody “likes” seeing protesters shot.