The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.

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    I didn’t say it is a neurological issue. I say it could be one, and it needs to be investigated as to whether it is or not.

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      You’re splitting hairs, and you’re still dead wrong. It’s the same as suggesting that people who don’t adhere to your chosen religion could have neurological issues, based only on that observation.

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        The observation is that humans, barring any genetical defects of any kind have one of two sexes: male or female, and they generally feel comfortable with the genitals attached to their bodies. The fact that a very small percentage of people are born differently infers that there might be a root cause because every single thing that happens in our bodies and minds has a biological root.

        Religion itself as a set of rules and systems has its origins in response to curiosity, whose biological roots we do not know entirely but could be an evolutionary adaptation. After it satisfies curiosity it also becomes a system for social order.

        Do I need to write an essay from every rebuttal you might have? Or can you accept that point blank we should be investigating, if not into the interest of treatment but in the interest of pure knowledge itself why this thing happens?

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          The observation is that humans, barring any genetical defects of any kind have one of two sexes: male or female, and they generally feel comfortable with the genitals attached to their bodies.

          That’s wrong twice. Most people are born with distinct male or female genitalia. Some are not. There is no “genetical defect” involved in any case.

          Investigating for understanding is always welcome. You’re presupposing that something is “wrong” with people who either don’t have distinctly identifiable genitalia, or whose brains and physical features don’t align like you think they should. There is nothing wrong with those people.

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            You’re being intellectually dishonest. If someone is born with 4 fingers in one hand, we know it’s a defect. If someone is born without genitals we know it’s a defect. Especially if it affects their proper functioning.

            If there was nothing wrong with transgender people they wouldn’t suffer great psychological pain and they wouldn’t require extensive medical treatment in order to physically align themselves with their perceived self in such a way that is not possible without modern day medicine. If this was not a medical condition of some sort there would be a biological adaptation that allowed people to change ther genitalia like many animals do.

            But look I won’t engage in this argument further, once the mental gymnastics and the picking and twisting of every word starts I’m out. It’s not arguing in good faith, it’s simply turtling up to avoid engaging with the self evident realities.

            I know why you do it, but it’s not gonna help in the long run.