• mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Liberals -> want the means of production to remain privatized aka capitalism
      Leftists -> want the means of production to be publicly owned aka socialism

      • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        That presumes the binary is focused on economy when most nations are still debating freedom from the government and thus liberalism should be the start of the left.

        • IttihadChe@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 months ago

          This presumes the liberal view that liberalism is truly “freedom from the government” whatever that means(it’s not) and that such a thing is a requirement for a leftist position (it’s not)

          • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            And you are presuming the discussions being had are about capitalism when they are still debating the role of the government in private ownership.

            It’s a eurocentric position. It’s odd how many “leftists” fall into this.