It seems like we didn’t vote for this guy and he cheated his way to winning the election. He made suspicious comments about Elon Musk and how he helped with the election, mentioning something about how he’s really good with that technology. Which Musk also mentioned, claiming that Trump would never have been elected without him.
Then there’s an active lawsuit going on where several counties in New York state found that absolutely no one voted for Kamala Harris in their location during the election, despite having large groups of Democrat residents. Their electronic voting machines received patches right before voting started, which is highly suspicious. That’s being investigated right now.
It appears that the election was likely stolen and we have a president who was never elected. This is how fascist takeovers start, and unless people organize against the government, they’re just going to keep enabling this downfall of our country.
That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that there won’t be a next election if you don’t fight back.
Why do you think ICE needs a budget of 100 billion? Are you seriously so naive as to believe that it’s about illegal immigrants?
Edit: This is not a call to violence, but merely a warning to finally wake up. I don’t think you can still rely on your legal system as it is obvious broken beyond repair, but I do think it is possible to remove this despot by civil means. My suggestion: a general strike across all industries – if there’s one thing that scares your rulers, it’s loss of profit.
Dude, you are getting angry at the wrong person, and also preaching to the choir. 99% of people on this site agree with your point. So why are you yelling at me over an innocuous comment?
OP called me naive and implied that I think this is actually about immigration. How is that a genuine question? Insulting someone’s intelligence right off the bat isn’t asking for genuine dialog.
I love how people ask questions like this, like we’re gods who can snap our fingers and magically stop the fascists who outnumber us. The number of people who wanted it to happen outnumbered the number of us who didn’t want it to happen. Simple as that. Can’t even blame the electoral college.
And those people still absolutely love him and will do anything for him and to keep him in power. The only option left after losing the election would be civil war, but even if enough people were ready to go all out and start one, we would lose that war because they have the government and its resources, including the military. That’s the problem with democracy, you see–majority rules and if the majority decides they don’t want a democracy any more, then it’s over.
Hate is a hell of a drug. The religious people (primarily Christians) in our country are particularly susceptible to it. Trump pretends to be religious, and his cruelty is embraced by these types.
It’s just layers of indoctrination, basically. It’s not the majority of Americans, it’s around a third, but they vote in very high percentages, and the actual majority of Americans don’t vote.
So, we have this loud, delusional group with the most power right now purely because the majority of Americans don’t care to vote.
I’m not USian, but from what analysts worth their salt would say, it is combination of-- but not limited to-- intentional dumbification of Americans, the opposition not really being opposition, the US Supreme Court legalising bribery, the atomisation and polarisation of American communities, de-industrialisation, growing wealth inequality and general corruption. These contributed to the growth of frustration and populism among the voters to vote for anyone who is “not establishment”. Someone who “tells it like it is” unlike most politicians who always do politician speak. In the minds of many Americans, Trump may be a grifter and a pervert, but they see him as genuine. If the democracy is a sham after all, might as well pull down the mask and show tje country for what it truly is. That’s why people say Trump is a symptom, not the cause. The same symptom is happening across the world which is why we’re getting the same far right populism.
Yeah it was pretty much inevitable, sooner or later. The same is true for several other countries whose citizens are here on Lemmy laughing at us or chastizing us about it, not realizing that the same thing is coming for them, too.
How can this guy be your president, US folks? It was absolutely well known.
Even now, still no appropriate response. Instead, just more of what was also totally foreseeable: corruption and fascism.
How can you allow this to happen?
If you don’t act now, you will be the next dictatorship.
Media and propaganda. They are very powerfull. Greed as well.
Because millions of people didn’t care
Worse than that, millions of people actively chose this. AGAIN.
Millions of people were convinced by their media and algorithms that they didn’t care.
It seems like we didn’t vote for this guy and he cheated his way to winning the election. He made suspicious comments about Elon Musk and how he helped with the election, mentioning something about how he’s really good with that technology. Which Musk also mentioned, claiming that Trump would never have been elected without him.
Then there’s an active lawsuit going on where several counties in New York state found that absolutely no one voted for Kamala Harris in their location during the election, despite having large groups of Democrat residents. Their electronic voting machines received patches right before voting started, which is highly suspicious. That’s being investigated right now.
It appears that the election was likely stolen and we have a president who was never elected. This is how fascist takeovers start, and unless people organize against the government, they’re just going to keep enabling this downfall of our country.
A lot of us didnt vote for this guy…
That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that there won’t be a next election if you don’t fight back.
Why do you think ICE needs a budget of 100 billion? Are you seriously so naive as to believe that it’s about illegal immigrants?
Edit: This is not a call to violence, but merely a warning to finally wake up. I don’t think you can still rely on your legal system as it is obvious broken beyond repair, but I do think it is possible to remove this despot by civil means. My suggestion: a general strike across all industries – if there’s one thing that scares your rulers, it’s loss of profit.
Dude, you are getting angry at the wrong person, and also preaching to the choir. 99% of people on this site agree with your point. So why are you yelling at me over an innocuous comment?
I think that was an actual question and invitation to dialogue, and your first response is to disavow? You mistake genuine concern for anger?
Why?
OP called me naive and implied that I think this is actually about immigration. How is that a genuine question? Insulting someone’s intelligence right off the bat isn’t asking for genuine dialog.
Saving this one. Needs to be posted in nearly every discussion where trump comes up.
I love how people ask questions like this, like we’re gods who can snap our fingers and magically stop the fascists who outnumber us. The number of people who wanted it to happen outnumbered the number of us who didn’t want it to happen. Simple as that. Can’t even blame the electoral college.
And those people still absolutely love him and will do anything for him and to keep him in power. The only option left after losing the election would be civil war, but even if enough people were ready to go all out and start one, we would lose that war because they have the government and its resources, including the military. That’s the problem with democracy, you see–majority rules and if the majority decides they don’t want a democracy any more, then it’s over.
Hate is a hell of a drug. The religious people (primarily Christians) in our country are particularly susceptible to it. Trump pretends to be religious, and his cruelty is embraced by these types.
It’s just layers of indoctrination, basically. It’s not the majority of Americans, it’s around a third, but they vote in very high percentages, and the actual majority of Americans don’t vote.
So, we have this loud, delusional group with the most power right now purely because the majority of Americans don’t care to vote.
I’m not USian, but from what analysts worth their salt would say, it is combination of-- but not limited to-- intentional dumbification of Americans, the opposition not really being opposition, the US Supreme Court legalising bribery, the atomisation and polarisation of American communities, de-industrialisation, growing wealth inequality and general corruption. These contributed to the growth of frustration and populism among the voters to vote for anyone who is “not establishment”. Someone who “tells it like it is” unlike most politicians who always do politician speak. In the minds of many Americans, Trump may be a grifter and a pervert, but they see him as genuine. If the democracy is a sham after all, might as well pull down the mask and show tje country for what it truly is. That’s why people say Trump is a symptom, not the cause. The same symptom is happening across the world which is why we’re getting the same far right populism.
Yeah it was pretty much inevitable, sooner or later. The same is true for several other countries whose citizens are here on Lemmy laughing at us or chastizing us about it, not realizing that the same thing is coming for them, too.