An interim update from the EHRC, published in May, said that “trans women (biological men) should not be permitted to use the women’s facilities and trans men (biological women) should not be permitted to use the men’s facilities, as this will mean that they are no longer single-sex facilities”.
However, a response from Museums Galleries Scotland (MGS), which supports around 455 non-national museums and is funded by the Scottish Government, said EHRC’s proposals may “force some museums to close”, or “risk leaving trans people with no facilities at all” if changes could not be made.
Oh fuck that. No way I want to line up behind 20 women when I need to drop a deuce
I mean you could do separate lines or something for that— but at the same time maybe that just means you need more bathrooms if there is a significant line. Also maybe making a separate powder room would reduce the lines by directing those who want to do make up or something to a different place.
This is the way. The shitter and the talking-shit areas should be separate.
It’s not make up that causes long lines. Please tell me you’re being sarcastic and I’ve missed it.
Wait are you saying they´re taking up bathroom stalls to do their makeup??
No. This thread is just full of guys who don’t understand how female anatomy works.
yeah this isn’t really an issue in Denmark where gender neutral toilets are fairly regular.
The fun thing is tha t by combining them you reduce the waiting tolime overall for everyone together, while making it a bit longer for the now privileged.
This. Most of the time women have to wait in long lines while men’s room is empty. There were times women would loose patience and just went to man’s room because why not.
Most women will not be using the urinal, though, which is why men’s bathrooms are often much quicker to get through.
This is why it’s now becoming standard design practice in the design of restrooms for large public buildings to simply build the women’s restroom larger than the men’s. This is really the classic “equality vs. equity.” Equality means building both restrooms the same size. Equity means realizing that to deliver the same level of service - the same average wait time, the women’s restrooms probably should just be built larger and with more total stalls. So you build out your restrooms with the number of stalls in the women’s room being about 40% or so greater than the total number of stalls and urinals in the men’s.
Wouldn’t designating a stall or two in the women’s as pee only, so that the pee’rs can go quicker without having to wait for people doin other stuff, basically rectify that… without needing to gum up the more efficient urinal situation men get? That way they’d have that ‘fast lane’ option, just like guys, while guys could still have the more convenient-for-their-body urinals to use. Maybe get an engineer to make like a pee-troth for women to squat along for peeing en masse, and designate half the bathroom to that, like how urinals are done in mens rooms.
Equity should generally be about improving the situation for the disadvantaged demo, without dragging everyone else down, no? Not causing added issue for existing people / setups is also an argument for lettin trans people go wherever they’re comfortable – cause it wouldn’t make sense to have to setup a bathroom for every gender identity out there.