• sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    13 days ago

    Is it a representative democracy with secrecy laws? Then no.

    There is no democracy on this planet because all democracies are representative democracies. In representative democracies the politicians are not representative of the people, but they promise to do things a certain way, and if people elect them for it, that’s like indirect representation. However this breaks down as soon as secrecy laws are put in place, because if the government or private companies can decide which knowledge will reach the people, and which will not, they will simply declare information that will upset their voters to be secret. This breaks all representative democracies.

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      13 days ago

      People are voted here for the person there are or for their idea’s on certain subject or whatever somebody chooses to make their vote. Everybody can enlist themselves to be voted on different levels on the politic spectrum. Heck, it is even is a spectrum instead of a 2 or 3 party system.

      A lot of what is done in the government is transparent and open for the public to read/see, a lot of our justice system is publicly available as well (except certain cases regarding children).

      Most companies have to be transparent at least on a financial level and most of the bigger once also on other levels.

      Our politic system is far from ideal though: https://www.democratiemonitor.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Democratie-Monitor-2025.pdf

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        13 days ago

        Let’s say i put myself out there and say people should vote for me if they want world peace.
        Let’s assume the people vote for me, because they want world peace.
        Now that i am elected, a lobbyist from a arms company visits me and asks me to grant them an export license to sell weapons to an agressor (let’s assume i have the right to sign such deals).

        Are there laws in place that allow me to prevent my voters from finding out that i granted that export license, like a law that says i don’t need to report publicly that i signed this? Or maybe even a law that prevents journalists from reporting on this even if they find out, because the contract (or it’s contents) are considered secret and publishing it would be illegal?

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      13 days ago

      Representative democracy is a type of democracy. You’re not doing anyone any favors by conflating “direct democracy” and “democracy”.

      Though somehow, I feel like you know exactly what you’re doing…

      • sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch
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        13 days ago

        For me democracy means rule of the people.
        Of course you can define words as you want, and say that only direct democracy is rule of the people, while representative democracy can be oligarchy dressed as democracy, but for me using such a definition makes the word democracy meaningless and undesirable.