• Javi@feddit.uk
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      3 months ago

      Churchill was a racist piece of shit.

      So are people who disparage entire nationalities for the actions of a few.

      I’ve never done anything to you or India; So can you explain to me why I should get fucked?

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        It was more than “a few”. You can get fucked for downplaying the scale of the atrocities the british committed. The entire european economy is based on the exploitation of the global south. You can get fucked for tone-policing the anger that causes.

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          Ah gotcha, so a newborn in the local hospital is responsible for the atrocities committed by a man who died 60 years ago, seems logical.

          I’m not downplaying anything, I’m pointing to the fact that your anger is misdirected. There are many British people that have had absolutely no say or action in any of what you’ve stated, yet you claim they should get fucked for no reason other than where they’re born.

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            3 months ago

            Yeah your right, Scotland, Ireland and Wales had no say, not fuck Britain, fuck England

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      Wowie, so you post empire-sanctioned liberal propaganda on a meme about the propaganda of liberal media. Wow so big brain!

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    Some actual Churchill quotes. This is who repeatedly gets voted the “Greatest Briton” by the British people.

    • “It is, thank heaven, difficult if not impossible for the modern European to fully appreciate the force which fanaticism exercises among an ignorant, warlike and Oriental population. Several generations have elapsed since the nations of the West have drawn the sword in religious controversy, and the evil memories of the gloomy past have soon faded in the strong, clear light of Rationalism and human sympathy. Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men’s passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination.”
    • “I think we shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them. I believe that as civilized nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China — I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph.”
    • “I propose that 100,000 degenerate Britons should be forcibly sterilized and others put in labour camps to halt the decline of the British race.”
    • “I think a curse should rest on me — because I love this war. I know it’s smashing and shattering the lives of thousands every moment — and yet — I can’t help it — I enjoy every second of it.”
    • “One might as well legalise sodomy as recognise the Bolsheviks.”
    • “I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes.”
    • “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others.”
    • “One may dislike Hitler’s system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as indomitable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations.”
    • “I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.”
    • “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”
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    People very much do not think churchill was a saint, he was precisely the monster required at the time during WWII

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      It’s actually fucking insane Churchill and his policies killed 4 million Indians while he was in office and you call it “precisely the monster required at the time” fuck if you think so lowly of brown people I guess Hitler was the monster required for the time too, he broke the western European colonial empires to the point their empires crumbled not long after. So 6 million Jews, makes Hitler the most evil man on earth but 4+ million south Asians dying under Churchills watch is “precisely the monster required for the time” you fucking dunce

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        Literally referring to his lionisation during wwii as anyone who had the barest conception of history would grasp.

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          Yes, everybody understands that was your perspective. You just happened to share that perspective on a post talking about a man-made famine in India. So, uh, you failed at context.