The perpetual advice to Democrats is that moving rightward will solve all their problems. But look where the party is at the moment: already embracing Republican affect and policies, yet still losing.
Show me in their platform where it says they still support that. Show me any recent serious party wide efforts. Show me in kamala harris’ 2024 platform.
You don’t have to pass constitutional amendments to pass laws. They could introduce bills even if they don’t pass and campaign on them.
They do the bare minimum to trick people like you into thinking they give a single fuck about you. I’m sorry, but that don’t. The Democrat party is owned by wealthy interests that unlike the Republicans are smart enough to give the working class enough crumbs to keep society from collapsing, but that’s not enough to energize people to vote anymore because life just keeps getting harder and harder for the average American even when they’re in charge.
All that isn’t to say that people shouldn’t vote for a corporate dem when it’s that or a republican, but you’re completely blind if you can’t see that there are real problems with the party that are contributing to their losses.
It’s also been a stated goal during campaigns for literally every DNC I’ve ever seen, and it’s been a constant political battle for over 15 years with bills being constantly introduced.
YOU DON’T BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO PASS THE THING WHICH THEY VOTED TO PASS?!
They do introduce bills like that, all the time. A recent one was 119th Congress “H. R. 12 - To protect a person’s ability to determine whether to continue or end a pregnancy, and to protect a health care provider’s ability to provide abortion services” which is mainly about women’s right to choose but it also explicitly mentions the rights if LGBTQ healthcare as one of the casualties of the reversal of Roe V. Wade by Republican stacked SCOTUS. It was never called to vote by the Republican Speaker of the House. Link Here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/12/text
The problem with arguing with you people is it’s easier for you to ask these questions and make random shit up than it is for me to provide this evidence. I hope you left this conversation more informed than you entered it because otherwise it’s just been a waste of time.
All that isn’t to say that people shouldn’t vote for a corporate dem when it’s that or a republican, but you’re completely blind if you can’t see that there are real problems with the party that are contributing to their losses.
People, including YOU, are contributing to the problems we face by coming in here with no other purpose than to shit “constructive criticism” all over the Democrats. The next election won’t be decided by whose policies are the best or worst, it won’t be decided by those of us who want to make the party better and are taking actions towards that goal, what will decide the election is whether or not people are energized and excited to vote for the DNC like they were in 2020 and in 2008.
You can fix a minority party all you like, but what we need right now is to remove the GOP at any cost.
Touche, though passing a constitutional amendment as the method is a pipe dream, and you’ll have to forgive me for not really believing they mean it given how many of them are completely governed by special interests.
They don’t get credit for something they did 15 years ago and have completely backed off on.
Ok why didn’t that do that when they controlled the house? Oh yeah because it’s something they only do to drive engagement and never act on when they actually have the power to.
Bodily autonomy was a protected right by the 14th Amendment as of the Roe V. Wade decision until in June 2022 Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization overturned it. After it was overturned the DNC had control of the house until the 2022 midterm election but only narrowly held a 50:50 Senate WITH HELP OF CAUCUSING IND. Since abortion is a core policy stance for Republicans they would fillibuster it at ever opportunity and last I checked the 48 seats they had, the most they have held in over a decade, is less than 60 needed to bypass fillibuster. The DNC could change senate rules to remove fillibuster, but then the GOP still held more seats and the fact that Independents Manchin and Sinema are both the real moderates while Angus King does his own libertarian thing means they might have sided with the GOP on key legislatures, putting us in an even worse position than we are right now.
Abortion rights (and everything else that was a constant campaign point for both the rs and ds) were hanging by a thread on supreme court decisions for years and years. They had decades to actually legislate them.
Perhaps if they had changed the filibuster rules in 2010 they could have done something about it. Otherwise, there have been no opportunities, we need more seats.
They do the bare minimum to trick people like you into thinking they give a single fuck about you. I’m sorry, but that don’t. The Democrat party is owned by wealthy interests that unlike the Republicans are smart enough to give the working class enough crumbs to keep society from collapsing, but that’s not enough to energize people to vote anymore because life just keeps getting harder and harder for the average American even when they’re in charge.
All that isn’t to say that people shouldn’t vote for a corporate dem when it’s that or a republican, but you’re completely blind if you can’t see that there are real problems with the party that are contributing to their losses.
It’s also been a stated goal during campaigns for literally every DNC I’ve ever seen, and it’s been a constant political battle for over 15 years with bills being constantly introduced.
YOU DON’T BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO PASS THE THING WHICH THEY VOTED TO PASS?!
They do introduce bills like that, all the time. A recent one was 119th Congress “H. R. 12 - To protect a person’s ability to determine whether to continue or end a pregnancy, and to protect a health care provider’s ability to provide abortion services” which is mainly about women’s right to choose but it also explicitly mentions the rights if LGBTQ healthcare as one of the casualties of the reversal of Roe V. Wade by Republican stacked SCOTUS. It was never called to vote by the Republican Speaker of the House. Link Here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/12/text
The problem with arguing with you people is it’s easier for you to ask these questions and make random shit up than it is for me to provide this evidence. I hope you left this conversation more informed than you entered it because otherwise it’s just been a waste of time.
People, including YOU, are contributing to the problems we face by coming in here with no other purpose than to shit “constructive criticism” all over the Democrats. The next election won’t be decided by whose policies are the best or worst, it won’t be decided by those of us who want to make the party better and are taking actions towards that goal, what will decide the election is whether or not people are energized and excited to vote for the DNC like they were in 2020 and in 2008.
You can fix a minority party all you like, but what we need right now is to remove the GOP at any cost.
Abortion rights (and everything else that was a constant campaign point for both the rs and ds) were hanging by a thread on supreme court decisions for years and years. They had decades to actually legislate them.
Perhaps if they had changed the filibuster rules in 2010 they could have done something about it. Otherwise, there have been no opportunities, we need more seats.