• Soup@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    A big problem is that people need smartphones for so much of modern life. You can stop watching Disney and your life won’t meaningfully change but it’s really hard to avoid evil smartphone companies. Part of me wants to switch from Apple but what would I go to? Samsung who’s just as bad about right to repair? Google who’s Google? I’m not saying it’s impossible but I’m not going to say that the choice is as easy as cancelling a streaming service.

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      5 hours ago

      A big problem is that people need smartphones for so much of modern life.

      Do you though? They’re convenient, for sure, but you can also use a dumbphone and a laptop.

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        3 hours ago

        Yea, just gunna carry my laptop around with me everywhere. And that’s not even talking about all the nonsense on laptops that most people can’t deal with.

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        How the fuck would I access my bank then? All banks literally require their apps to access the account or sometimes even open the account, nevermind actually pay for anything or get a debit or credit card.

        >Inb4 some American downvotes because they forget the rest of the world exists

        We get it, Americans use cash in America, and they use magnetic stripe cards and cheques and all these other technologies that were phased out in rest of the world before I was even born, but that’s not really an argument to make on a global platform.

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          All banks literally require

          In your part of the world…

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            In most of the world that isn’t 1 country that starts with ‘United States’ and ends with ‘of America’

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      Yeah this is generally the take I hear the most. The smartphone is presented as a necessity and for a lot of people that may be true, but what it really is is a tool for capitalism. It spies on you, gives you fomo, serves you ads, gives access to all kinds of addictive content… oh and work apps!

      It’s like AI, shoved down our throats until people think it’s needed. It’s not.

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        Yeah except I do actually need one for work, paying rent, paying bills etc. It’s a helluva position of privilege to be able to say no to something like that, and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t have a car, which is far less necessary.

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          You can’t do those things any other way, eh? That’s crazy…

          It’s a privilege to say no, eh? Interesting take.

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        I would say you’re missing some nuance in these arguments, though.

        With a phone people no longer need laptops or full-sized computers and they also get a phone and camera to go along with it. They get a lot of power even just using fairly mundane apps like email, file storage, and a calendar. And then you have access to the internet and all the power that comes with that. I also don’t know why you think phones show ads.

        AI, on the other hand, is hot fucking garbage at everything it does. Why anyone uses it I can’t say, it’s so bad and it’s known that it’s actively making people dumber. I don’t touch the stuff and my life has been going just fine.