Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.
Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people’s lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.
It’s hard to get definite info from there, but some experts* say the economy is way worse off than what they show the West.
OTOH China is helping them…
* and I mean that unironically.
Of course. When you’re waging war you don’t show weakness to your enemy.
What I find stunning is how little clue the standard Russian citizen has. They know there are fuel shortage but they don’t know why.
Look at what the propaganda networks have achieved in the US. Those techniques were largely developed in Russia.
That’s quite probable. Also even help from China is probably not sustainable. Let’s hope it crumbles, the sooner the better.
It looks to me like China isn’t really interested in helping Russia win. They are helping Russia just enough to keep fighting and throwing away, well, everything.
It becomes fairly obvious when you think about what the likely effects would be.
Let’s say Russia achieves all it’s military obejctevies; they crush the Ukrainian military, the remaining civilian population offers an unconditional surrender, and Russia is able to completely annex Ukraine. Then what?
Then China’s biggest and most powerful neighbor would be even bigger and more powerful. Once hostilities ceased, Russia would slowly be able to start selling oil to the rest of the world again so China wouldn’t get as good a deal and the negotiations on Power of Siberia would get more complicated.
Where is the upside for China?
Much of far eastern ruzzia has original chinese names. If anyone thinks China wants Taiwan back, how do you think they feel about Far Eastern ruzzia? LOL. China is just waiting for ruzzia to finish exhausting themselves, and then maybe ruzzia won’t be the biggest country by land mass anymore. Siberia, and a big chunk of the Arctic also hold much allure for the chinese. Japan should grab Sakhalin and the Kuriles, too. The location of Pootin the Midgets grave, will become ruzzia’s saliva and urine National Reserve.
Russia and China are two ancient empires with a long-ass border. Of course, ther’ll be rivalry, since neither state has abandoned its imperialist ambitions.
If China wanted to invade Russia. Why would they want Russia to win a war first? Why would it be easier for China to wait for hundreds of thousands of troops to be freed up. If China wanted to invade Russia, it’s hard to think of a better time than right now. They would be caught with their entire army on the wrong side of the country and most of the world lined up to support China, or at least stay out of the way. The only deterrent is Russia’s nuclear arsenal and that wouldn’t go away after a victory in Ukraine either.
I have bad news for you. China isn’t actually waiting for “russia to win a war first”. They are sitting back, encouraging and aiding ruzzia to use ALL of it’s resources and abilities, and become even weaker in the process. Then, when ruzzia is negligible soon, it might be time to repay some historical insults, hey? And, if by some million to one chance, ruzzia wins against Ukraine, well, China can use that in it’s Taiwan strategy. It’s a win either way, for China. China also has nukes, and I’d bet theirs will work, unlike the ruzzian ones that haven’t been maintained for decades because ruzzian generals all need cash.
Then why did you bring it up? My entire post was an argument that China has no incentive to want Russia to win the war. Did you intend to respond to some other post?
China has been watching go try to get an impression of the west’s reaction to the invasion. They want to be able to predict what will happen when they go into Taiwan.
Roll over, or full blown shooting war with the USA?
Why would China need Russia to win in Ukraine to gauge the West’s reaction? They’ve already seen the reaction to an invasion.
China has repeatedly shown that they have a much better tool against Taiwan than an invasion. Every time they want to rattle their sabre at Taiwan they blockade the entire island. They’ve done it many times and nobody does anything about it. Nobody has any realistic proposals on what they would do about it. Taiwan is a very densely populated island. It will run out of just about everything very quickly.
Delusional, China will simply wait out the impending collapse of the US and the ensuing end of our support for the current Taiwanese regime, after which peaceful reunification will be an inevitability. The US desperately wants China to do something stupid, as a justification for our aggressive foreign policy & to generate international support/repair our damaged reputation, which is exactly why they won’t.
It’s comical that so many people believe that the CCP is led by wise visionaries rather than power-mad, corrupt gangsters who cling to power by any means available to them, and are constantly shit-scared that their own people will someday see how much they’ve been conned and rise up against them.
Doesn’t take a visionary to outwit the US lol, all they have to do is stay the course they’ve been following for decades. This is pure projection.
It will be hilarious when China takes back far Eastern ruzzia, and maybe Siberia and a chunk of the Arctic too. Pootin the midget has well and truly fucked his pariah country forever. Ruzzia will be paying reparations for all time, and the location of Pootangs grave will be forgotten