Grrman C might be fake, but German Excel isn’t.
Localised Excel formulas makes me so angry, it’s hard to put it into words.
it’s hard to put it into words.
Just copy from Excel, then paste into Word. 🤷♂️
That’s the problem. It’s not called Word in other countries!
Word, yo!
Commas as a decimal separator be like: Guten Tag
Bonjour!
I remember a bug where the PC at an electrical substation was in french, so ‘if’ had to be changed to ‘si’ in the excel sheet …
I’m all in favor of
zuruck
replacingreturn
, because that just sounds cooler. Plusz
doesn’t get enough use in my programs these days.*
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Do C compilers support non-ascii characters?
Do as most non-DACH countries do: Just use the regular letter instead of the Umlaut.
Example:
Über-Mensch -> Uber-MenschJust use the regular letter instead of the Umlaut
But that’s just wrong.
ü
has a different meaning and pronunciation thanu
.If umlauts aren’t available, the correct way to write umlauts is with an additional
e
:zurueck
.Über-Mensch -> Uber-Mensch
Please be aware that this term can be problematic, since it can be seen as a foundation for fascist ideas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übermensch#Use_by_the_Nazis
Didnt have a better and fitting example
I often use z as a temp variable when i need something to compare to when creating new code but don’t want a separate window to the side or to experiment with something but don’t yet know what the result can or will be. I use z purely just because i know z is very very unlikely to have been used elsewhere, and if for some reason it has, then i just name it ‘zz’.
This is actually temporary by the way. It does not stay in my code. Once I’m done with it, i delete it.
If you think German C is bad imagine Czech PHP.
Had to refactor an entire custom Magento plugin written in it.
I found a random PHP file online and recreated your trauma:
<?phpcz jmennýprostor Itb; třída OvladačUživatele { soukromá §větev; veřejná funkce akcePřihlašovacíhoFormuláře() { §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Přihlašovací formulář', ]; §vzor = 'domov.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } veřejná funkce zpracujPřihlašovacíAkci(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo) { když(§toto->platnéÚdajeSprávce(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo)) { §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'] = §uživatelskéJméno; §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Vzorový formulář', ]; §vzor = 'domov.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } jinak { §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Formulář chyby přihlašování', ]; §vzor = 'chybaPřihlášení.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } } soukromá funkce platnéÚdajeSprávce(§j, §h) { když('admin' == §j && 'admin' == §h){ vrať pravda; } jinak když('staff' == §j && 'staff' == §h){ vrať pravda; } jinak { vrať nepravda; } } veřejná funkce jePřihlášen() { když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){ vrať pravda; } jinak { vrať nepravda; } } veřejná funkce uživatelskéJménoZSezení() { když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){ vrať §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno']; } jinak { vrať ''; } } }
Is this what it looked like? (I also took the liberty of replacing
with
§
because of the Czech keyboard layout; FYI: yes we do have aavailable as
AltGr
+ů
but§
is in the base layer; I would also replace the backtick/grève `, which is obtained by pressingAltGr
+š
once or twice (OS-dependent), with°
).Edit: BTW my first code was in the “Imagine” program, a Logo IDE with Czech localization (including syntax:
do
,vz
,vp
,vl
,puntík
,smaž
,domů
,příkaz
,konec
,piš
etc.). The documentation was piss-poor, I never learnt if it had arrays or code comments. The textbook I had didn’t even mention variables, I only learned about them in a short PDF guide I found online. Before that, I would use pixels on the canvas as variables.Had my 10yo self received a Python runtime instead, I wouldn’t be stimied by the “you don’t need to pass arguments if every variable is global” mindset I’m still struggling to overcome. I found programming challenges online and was able to solve most theoretical ones, but Imagine was too limited to implement all but the basic practical ones, not to mention that it ran way slower than Python would. I was convinced that the lack of speed was mostly the hardware’s fault and that I would need a low-level language like C++ to solve the 1000×1000 inputs in some puzzles. I got in touch with the challenge authors and they suggested Eclipse but I couldn’t get it to work. I was too overwhelmed by the English interface and documentation and barely knew what a compiler was. I learnt decent English soon after but the fear of IDEs stayed, and eventually I turned towards electronics instead.
Thanks now I’m having flashbacks
Wow, I just learnt from your comment history that you likely don’t even speak Czech. This must have been hell.
By the way, English not being my first language is one of the factors why I’m not a programmer, see the edit to the above comment.
Just needed a little bit of patience and a whole lotta Google Translate
There is something like this? 😂
Well, in PHP you cannot #define new words from some new language to mean basic language keywords.
The concept of foreign languages in code confuses and frightens me
Foreign? For some these languages are native. Foreign is relative.
(I’m just being pedantic, i understand that relatively to you - and me - this is foreign)
Why? Programming language isn’t a natural language. In fact, I think not knowing English makes it easier, since you cannot attach any preconceived notions, assumptions, or word order to keywords. I learned some Pascal, Visual Basic and whatever GameMaker used at the time without being fluent in English.
But all programming language already are in a foreign language to most people.
There’s also rost
Wow, that’s cursed.
I worked with one of the authors of the Brazilian SQL. It was exactly what it looks, every reserved word translated to Brazilian Portuguese.
Oh shit, I’d never get anything done, as I’d imagine my lovely friend’s accent reading this shit out.
Selecione * de tbl_minha-tabela onde nome não é nulo
Hahaha! I love it!That reminds me, I had to modify a program written in VB once. The guy who created it wrote every table, every column, every view in Portuguese, WITH ACCENTS! It works, we simply have to put everything between brackets, but it doesn’t add anything to clarity. It looks awful and seems pedantic.
Oh god. I still have nightmares about that time I had excel formulas in Portuguese, I refuse to think about SQL.
Don’t forget the keyboard shortcuts. Office products would change shortcuts according to the language, so it would be more mnemonic. Ctrl-F for find and Ctrl-B for bold would be reassigned to whatever initials that language had. Fun! /s
Not even the right initials. Most of the actions’ names had the same few initials so they had to find synonyms to use the shortcut for. Search was Ctrl+L (from Locate). In other cases they just used whatever letter was next on the keyboard to the initial that was already in use.
Pretty sure
druckef
should bedrucked
.printf
meansprint
(to)f
ile. “File” is valid German, but it is non-standard and “Datei” seems to be the preferred form.I could also argue that that
d
should be capitalised, but I’m already overstepping my bounds considering I know very little German.I wouldn’t want to say which should take precedence between C’s preference for all-lowercase keywords and functions and German’s Rule to capitalise all Nouns.
I think
druckef
is correct, thef
meansformat
.fprintf
would bddruckef
orDdruckeF
Are you sure the
f
is supposed to meanfile
and notformat
, as in print a formatted string?Blödsinn. Richtig heißt das “druckefuck”.
Du hast vollkommen Recht :)
Nee, de f in printf staat voor format, niet voor file.
nederlands ees nur duits met veelen dooppelbuuchstaaben, ooder?
Wir nutzen Doppelvokalen anstelle von der Umlaut und die Kasus sind nicht so kompliziert.
Thaat’s beecaauusee aafteer eenoouugh Schnaaps yoouu seeee doouublee. #DuutchIisDruunkGeermaan
*dooppelvookaalen
Well, you can Code in a real German syntax: https://ddp.im/en/
DDP has the following data types: Zahl (long), Kommazahl (double), Buchstabe (char), Text (string), Wahrheitswert (bool) und Listen (list)
Gottimhimmel, that would drive me crazy, and I’m German.
The code screenshot is pretty nice though. Actual grammar in there, full sentences that “Goethe would be proud of”.
The code screenshot is pretty nice though. Actual grammar in there, full sentences that “Goethe would be proud of”.
The syntax and all these
Wenn
reminds me of Cucumber/GherkinWhy yes I always dreamed of writing code like a full on novel.
Ich will das! 😍 Zurück 0;
Versuche, fangen, aus.
You are missing the Neuzeil at the end of the Schnur.
Forget that the real evil is that the first character of Int or Ganz in this case is capitalized
German has a word for it: Substantivgroßschreibung
Quellcodeanglizismussubstastivbeispielersatzgroßschreibungsregel
#beinhalte
My German teacher: any usage of the verb 🦵-halten in your essay is a point off.
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What’s wrong with beinhalten?
Handhalten is more romantic.
The romantic version would be händchenhalten. Handhalten sounds efficiently German, but not romantic.
But that ruins the joke! You Germans and your utter and complete lack of a sense of humour, sheesh.
It doesn’t fit very well in this context, the idea behind “beinhalten” is that the subject “includes” the object (i.e. the object is part of the content of the subject), but the #include command in the C preprocessor isn’t about describing that kind of situation, it’s a command “I want to include one file in another”, a better verb in German for that is “einbinden”. (I realize this isn’t a very good explanation, but I’m a native speaker of German and can tell you that no one would use the verb “beinhalten” in this context.)
The previous commenter’s German teacher likely prefers “enthalten” instead of “beinhalten”, which has the same problem in this context though.
Overuse and lack of elegance, in her opinion.
We still loved her though.
Maybe incorrect rebracketing? It’s supposed to be be-inhalten, not bein-halten. Otherwise maybe a writing style thing…
Most fucked up thing here is
<type> <name> {
I must be old because I remember that as being the standard form until Java popularized
<visibility> <static?> <type> <name> {
I mean I’m not that old, but I was reading more C and C++ books and tutorials when I was a kid, because “ew Java”
Das ist K&R C, du Banause!
sí has entered the chat
Flashbacks to programming a Siemens PLC. That was on a “portable” PG with a CRT screen.