• 1984@lemmy.today
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    I dont think we are in a bubble and I think all the media posts about it are just trying to make people sell their shares.

    Sure there is no obvious profit yet but there will be. Once people start using AI in their phones and ask it questions, everything from baking to coding becomes way easier since its an interactive conversation, not a search result.

    People will pay for that convenience since its a huge downside to not have access to it. Search results now seem very limited to me since I cant find out more about what its saying.

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      I’m so glad you AI people are so vocal and open about it, makes it super easy to filter dumb people out. If you think LLMs are impressive, it just shows how little discerniment you have.

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      Literally the entire point of searching something is to open up the links and find out more about what it’s saying… Do you need your AI to come up with the search queries too???

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        Its not interactive. Did you read my comment?

        If you dont understand why people are going to pay for that, I dont know what to tell you.

        Thats literally the entire thing about Ai, you can have a conversation, not static text and links.

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          The technology (at least with current methodologies) is flawed: that’s why people are warning of the bubble bursting. We can’t properly scale LLMs on our current grid in the same capacity as China. Our technologies are also incredibly energy-intensive compared to their technologies.

          There is no intelligence, the hallucinations are likely fundamental, the cases of people being given dangerous or harmful advice are rising, human AI psychosis is a real concern, the sycophancy/bias confirmation is still present, and major actors in the AI space are existentially afraid of any form of regulation of the technology/industry (which does not signal confidence).

          Also, it’s critical to factor in the whole copyright issue with training data… one domino is all it takes to collapse the whole thing.

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            These things will evolve and change and improve, as always. When the first car was invented, there wasnt any proper roads for cars. Things change.

            Copyright issues are not going to be an issue at all when entire countries are trying to get first to AGI. Nobody cares about that.

            Hallucinations are flaws that will eventually be fixed, and the more gpu power that is available, the easier it will be to fix.

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              Are you personally invested in the AI/LLM space? I’m wondering why you chose to engage with very few of my arguments. Is your account a troll account? If you’re not trolling: re-read. I will not engage further until you adequately address my points.

              I was pretty clear: there is no intelligence. AGI is an absolute pipe dream and it will also be a far cry from actual intelligence if you look into it. Hallucinations won’t be fixed unless the technology evolves - adding more GPU power won’t be able to fix it.

              The copyright theft is an extreme issue, regardless your hand-waving of it. Copyright law reform is not perceivably on the table. Major companies are caught red-handed stealing and these companies have no intention of compensating the rights holders they stole from.

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      they’re giving out ai memberships and trials constantly to try to get ppl used to it paying for it, hasnt worked, ngl I generate images ocsssionaly I like seeing random mashups sometimes, but id never pay for it if its free and fast why not, I was never gonna pay anyone to do it and im not selling anything, dont get why ppl get all pissy when ai is used for self entertainment

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      I think you are overestimating the amount people will pay for convenience or cling to their old ways.

      Did e-readers kill the bookstore? Some people will always prefer to cook out of a book or dive into docs to write code.

      Or look at the modern streaming landscape. In the beginning there was basically Netflix and everyone was fine paying that monthly fee for the convenience of streaming basically everything. Now we have 20+ vendors all charging for some subset of content. And we have seen a corresponding loss in subscribers as people hit the limit of what they are willing to pay for convenience.