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In an attempt to argue that ICE protestors are radically out of control, the emergency appeal argues, “The federal agents’ efforts are met with prolonged, coordinated, violent resistance that threatens their lives and safety and systematically interferes with their ability to enforce federal law.” The Daily Beast has reached out to the White House for comment.
The White House was caught trying to pass off footage of violence in red states as footage from the “chaos” in Chicago last week.
At its most basic level, society is just a mutual non-aggression pact with the enforcement mechanism of the state monopoly on violence. The condition of that monopoly is that state violence must be used in an unbiased and dispassionate way. Any violations of this condition are only tolerated to the extent that open war is mutually assured destruction, a decidedly worse outcome.
The politicians inciting violence and the oligarchs supporting them should realize that if state violence leads to open war, the pact is broken and there are no more rules.
That’s another sad part of this. A war would be disastrous for everyone involved and even if the good guys win America would never regain its place on the world stage like it is now.
If we get weaker (because of internal war) every other world power would do everything in thier power to make sure we never got the influence we had back.
I am not sure about America losing power long-term, if Antifa took the reins after a civil war. A great deal of America’s current strength comes from inertia, but the institutions, egalitarianism, and education to power the future was already dwindling before Trump. A refreshed America might unlock a great deal of potential that was stalled by bad politics and an unfair economy.
For example, universal healthcare. A post-war America might be able to readily heal everybody within its borders, which frees up time for those people to do other things - inventing, creating, raising family, going to 3rd places, and so forth. The mental and physical wellbeings of every individual, in turn, affects the mindset of a nation as a whole.
Good.
The loss of influence, that is. The US’s outsized influence on the world stage has not exactly been a boon.
Im not going to say America being this powerful is good for the world. It certainly makes life easier for Americans being this powerhouse.
Too easy. The populace got soft and complacent, allowing this.
It’s absolutely wild that our society is being repeatedly tested at the civilian level right now… I cannot fucking believe we’ve been able to resist violence as much as we have without returning it.
Just goes to prove most people aren’t like Trump, and they certainly aren’t even remotely resembling what Trump paints us as. He’s genuinely confused and frustrated by the lack of response.
These are the kinds of discussions you will never see on reddit, anything implying that the masses could turn violent against a tyrant is deleted and banned.