Feel this is a good accompanying piece for all the folk insisting on caping for a Blackwater merc wth a nazi tattoo because he said something they liked.

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    The entire Left seems to not fucking understand that there is over a year until the general (over six months until the actual primaries?) but I have increasingly come to accept this is people re-litigating “The election is 3 months out. We don’t have time for a primary” in the stupidest way possible.

    But… welcome to being an adult. Ideologically? You can hate a mother fucker. But, at the end of the day, it is all about minimizing harm. You pick the lesser of the evils. And a bog standard establishment Liberal is way better than a lying Nazi who shows more and more signs of pulling a Fetterman every week.

    I can’t speak for Hasan as I find him to be insufferable. But if he really is making it a point to emphasize the lesser evil? Good on him. His constant “I am going to vote for Kamala but I can’t tell you to because she is genocidal” bullshit definitely didn’t help things last year.

    Primaries are when you have ideological wars. Generals are when you hold your nose and vote for the lesser evil. And you hope that the groups you are throwing under the bus (almost always women, people of color, and LGBTQIA+ folk) haven’t decided they just don’t care and want EVERYONE to suffer along with them anymore.

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      Ideologically? You can hate a mother fucker. But, at the end of the day, it is all about minimizing harm.

      This is a harmful idea to spread and is exactly why the Democratic Party doesn’t give a fuck about its voters or potential voters.

      And a bog standard establishment Liberal is way better

      He’s running on a progressive platform, which is way better. The “bog standard establishment Liberal” is free to compete with populist policies and run on the same damn things.

      But if he really is making it a point to emphasize the lesser evil? Good on him.

      The primary and election are far out. No, this is not good on him.

      His constant “I am going to vote for Kamala but I can’t tell you to because she is genocidal” bullshit definitely didn’t help things last year.

      People are free to have red lines in a democracy. Politicians would be wise to respond to them, after all, they are supposed to be keying in on those issues and representing us.

      A pro-corporate, pro-genocide geriatric is not desirable choice to be a senator. A significant portion of the country is disenfranchised, have you ever asked yourself why so few people vote?

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        This is a harmful idea to spread and is exactly why the Democratic Party doesn’t give a fuck about its voters or potential voters.

        Again, what is the alternative? Help trump win rather than pick the option that causes you the least amount of harm>

        He’s running on a progressive platform, which is way better

        He is a nazi who has already been caught in a massive lie about his nazi tattoo. Again, Fetterman. People lie

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          Again, what is the alternative?

          Encourage voters to vote however they want to in a democracy and encourage politicians to test the waters and to really understand what 1) wins them elections 2) attracts voters 3) and restores trust in our institutions.

          Voting is just one part of a working democracy, never forget that.

          Again, Fetterman. People lie

          And Janet Mills is another Dianne Feinstein in the making.

          If Janet Mills and Graham Planter were my choices right now in a primary, I’d vote for Graham Platner because he is running on populist policies and doesn’t have a clear track record of being a corporate minion that doesn’t represent their state. Also factoring into my decision are the strong indicators that she will lose to Susan Collins.

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            Encourage voters to vote however they want to in a democracy and encourage politicians to test the waters and to really understand what 1) wins them elections 2) attracts voters 3) and restores trust in our institutions.

            And then chuds will laugh at you because they vote as a block.

            This is why even the parliamentary systems, that are very much about making third parties viable, tend to consolidate into voting blocks and super parties when the shit hits the fan.

            doesn’t have a clear track record of being a corporate minion that doesn’t represent their state

            … he was a fucking Blackwater mercenary who murdered and subjugated brown people on the other side of the planet in the name of corporations

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              And then chuds will laugh at you because they vote as a block.

              Let them laugh? I’m looking at the 1/3 of the country that doesn’t vote in the general election and the significant portion of Americans that don’t vote in the midterm elections. I am attempting to get you to realize that 2/3 is a winning majority - so encourage your favorite lesser evil to realize this too.

              … he was a fucking Blackwater mercenary who murdered and subjugated brown people on the other side of the planet in the name of corporations

              Wasn’t that for 6 months? If you want to give me his body count, please do tell. It might influence my decision, if only slightly. I won’t blame somebody for being sucked up by our MIC.

              People like me will always vote for populist policies in such a primary - it’s the lesser evil in this instance and for the greater good.

              And for the record, Fetterman never had me fooled. If an establishment-backed poser like him fooled you, that’s on you for not realizing that.

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                Okey dokeys. Good luck convincing 66.66% of the country that you are correct by, let me check:

                1. Backing nazis who worked for blackwater
                2. Calling people fools
                3. Helping republicans win so that they can make sure we “never have to vote again”
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                  Good luck convincing 66.66% of the country that you are correct

                  I don’t need to personally convince 2/3 of the country.

                  In our current system, that’s the job of politicians, their campaigns, and so forth.

                  Backing nazis who worked for blackwater

                  1. I said I would vote for populist policies. It’s the lesser evil. Re-read.

                  Calling people fools

                  1. Re-read, I did not state this. You’re not a fool.

                  Helping republicans win so that they can make sure we “never have to vote again”

                  1. A vote for Janet Mills is a vote for Susan Collins. Look at the previous races that Susan Collins has won and who ran against her. Janet Mills is also the least popular governor in the US.