cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38323356

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Oct. 31, 2025, 5:02 a.m. ET Michelle Goldberg

Andy O’Brien, a former Democratic state legislator and newspaper editor, told me that outsiders didn’t fully understand how radicalizing the second Trump presidency has been for ordinary Democrats. Even senior citizens, he said, were becoming “fire-breathing leftists. They’re just pissed off.”

These voters understood that Platner had made mistakes, but they saw him as a fighter. “Five years ago, he would have been dead in the water, I think,” said O’Brien, who now works with the labor movement. “But this is such an unprecedented time. I think a lot of people really believe that we need somebody who can effectively fight against fascism.”

Maine is an overwhelmingly white state, but it’s not just white guys who feel this way. “We’re sticking by him,” said Safiya Khalid, a Somali American activist and former member of the Lewiston City Council.

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    Homie? You aren’t doing a good job of defending him considering you are characterizing his statement as “It is their fault for being around those rapists”

    And the rest is the bog standard “she just isn’t charismatic” or “she laughs too much” that is always used to dismiss women. So… definitely painting a pic for why you are caping for the white nazi

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      Again, I’m not sure you even know what he said, because he didn’t say that. You’re throwing a quote in there, but I actually read the comments, and he didn’t say that.

      Second, I’m not defending, because even HE said some of his comments were indefensible, and posted by a person who was going through all kinds of horrible shit and had no wisdom around the subject.

      Third, as every other talking points person has said, we need get past this bullshit where people are taken to the mat for somehow being different at an earlier point and place in time. We can’t keep moving forward with this divided political shit and not believing in change, learning, improvement, or remorse from people in the party. That will only get you the same corporate candidates who have a “clean” chat for their entire lives because they’ve been preparing this moment. Those people are sociopaths or psychopaths who have carried this goal for decades to ensure they are clean as a whistle.

      Lastly, yeah, people want an enthusiastic candidate, and I don’t even mind her, but I think she seems like a nice person. She DOES NOT speak off the cuff about her thoughts about issues in any way that seems knowledgeable about issues, or having a connection to the issues her constituents are going through. I can’t even find the videos I saw of her interviewing now to reference this, but she was asked directly about being a military contractor and working for the “industrial complex”, and her answer was something like “Well that’s how things work, and people need to get over it”, which is like a “fuck you” to people who are against that.

      I just don’t think she’s a very elective candidate because of her flat affect. It has nothing to with her being a woman. If she matched the same charisma of other female candidates in the party, then she should have stayed in the race, but she knows she doesn’t, and she backed out. She just can’t contend.

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        we need get past this bullshit where people are taken to the mat for somehow being different at an earlier point and place in time.

        The ink on his celtic (allegedly purity) tattoo that covers up the totenkopf is still wet. He is hopefully still applying ointment every day. If he is in such a different place after just two weeks, who can possibly imagine what he might be doing in a whole month!

        Those people are sociopaths or psychopaths who have carried this goal for decades to ensure they are clean as a whistle.

        As opposed to nazis who were rocking the totenkopf back in September.

        I am a firm believer that people be given a chance to change. I have seen absolutely nothing indicating that the Blackwater merc with a nazi tattoo did. In fact, back in early October he was outright lying about not knowing what his nazi tattoo was.

        At best, we are looking at a Fetterman where he’ll say whatever will get him elected, fuck over the country as a republican for six years, and then get a lobbyist gig. And, just a reminder: Fetterman was a piece of shit long before the stroke and it is well documented even on a fucking Anthony Bourdain show.

        No. This is just yet another case of a really problematic white man being pushed above everything else and all defenses being “Well, boys will be boys”. Because Women, POC, and LGBTQIA+ folk (among other)… really have no choice. The republican will ALWAYS be worse.

        But if you want to suppress votes by running a nazi against fucking susan collins because it is just too hard to finish out the next six months of primary season?


        The reality is that he probably IS a good candidate because… Maine is really fucking white and really fucking racist. It’s “Upstate New York: The State”. And… a fucking nazi probably isn’t going to be much worse than collins. But I am not going to shut the fuck up about how “progressives” and “leftists” around the country can’t stop glazing a god damned nazi and what that means for all of their “allies”.

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          Daina Smith-Rodriguez is white.

          Also, did you read his comments? Even his reddit comments were anger at inequality, lack of LGBTQ support, anti-racism…etc.

          What are you even talking about in this comment?

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          Unintelligent purity tests like what you do are why we on the left are divided and can’t win. We don’t need your mentality on our side. You are divisive and unhelpful. You might as well just turn MAGA, because you have the same negative effect as voting for trump. We really don’t need you.

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            If “don’t have fucking nazi tattoos” is an “unintelligent purity test” then… holy fucking shit we are cooked.

            and

            We don’t need your mentality on our side.

            Yeah. The side with the totenkapfs on their chest isn’t my side. Which… is what you and many online leftists (as well as the DNC) are making abundantly clear to Women, People of Color, and our LGBTQIA+ “friends”.

            And, just because I can’t resist

            You might as well just turn MAGA, because you have the same negative effect as voting for trump.

            Actually, I think electing a nazi does a better job of supporting trump. Just saying.

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      you seem to want him to be a Nazi more than there is any evidence for him being a Nazi.

      seems like you’ve got an axe to grind.

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        I mean… its a nazi. So more like an entrenching shovel to grind?

        And folk wonder why women, people of color, and LGBTQIA+ folk tend to roll their eyes and distance themselves from Online Leftists.

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          folk tend to roll their eyes and distance themselves from Online Leftists.

          Bruh it looks like the terminally online kettle has something to say.

          Like, you making the accusation that Platner is a secret nazi does not a secret nazi Platner make. This was oppo research released to have this exact effect, targeted to operate on a person exactly like you. It was released in coordination with Mills announcement and Schumers endorsement to have maximum effect in stalling out/ pulling back Platners momentum.

          So like, the oppo worked, on you.

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            Like, you making the accusation that Platner is a secret nazi does not a secret nazi Platner make

            Yeah no. The totenkopf that was on his chest for 20 years does that. And the whole Blackwater thing doesn’t help. Nor does the homophobia.

            This was oppo research released to have this exact effect, t

            Wait… the opposition has a time machine and were able to go back 20 years, drug him, tattoo a totenkopf on his chest, and then trick him from realizing it was there for the next 20 years? And they are wasting it on THIS?

            So like, the oppo worked, on you.

            If “the oppo”'s goal was to make me dislike a nazi and really prefer we not tell all our POC/LBGTQIA+/Women “allies” to fuck off because this is a man’s world? Mission successful?

            Intent does not change facts. And if you think it is so important to spite the facsists by electing a nazi to the Senate…