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zShxck@lemmy.ml to Linux@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

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I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

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zShxck@lemmy.ml to Linux@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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  • scumola@sh.itjust.works
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    btop doesn’t update all of the characters for me after a while if I leave it open for a long time, and eventually it stops updating altogether.

  • brax@sh.itjust.works
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    I tried btop. It slowed my computer way the fuck down, so I went back to htop

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      Maybe you used bpytop, not btop? They look the same iirc.

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        Oh, you might actually be right there… I’m not sure now I didn’t realize there were alternatives.

        I remember trying it a while back when I found a list of fancy looking terminal apps. It was fancy, but it came at the cost of performance.

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      yeah you need a decently fast hw accelerated terminal for it
      for example, the gnome terminal is pretty slow; if you’re using it, try running it in alacrity or kitty and see if that improves performance.

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        I’ll have to check it out. I’ve seen kitty mentioned a few times but I’m an oldschool xterm kinda guy lol

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      • brax@sh.itjust.works
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        My laptop went bonkers trying to run it, maybe I have something misconfigured somewhere. I wanted to like it because it looks great, but I couldn’t because it was seemingly too resource intensive.

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          • brax@sh.itjust.works
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            Somebody mentioned I may have been running bpytop, so maybe this whole thing is my bad. I honestly can’t remember what I ran now - I thought it was btop

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    @zShxck

    It’s very attractive, but it also seems to have a minimum window size requirement that exceeds the “stack” in my “master and stack.”

    It’s great to use if you need a dashboard to track issues, but for a quick look at running processes, I think I’ll stick with htop.

  • BrioxorMorbide@lemm.ee
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    Can it show each core’s frequency? Or is there anything other than htop that can do that?

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      It does

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        I don’t see any option in 1.2.13, and https://github.com/aristocratos/btop/issues/190 suggests it isn’t implemented yet.

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          True, i confused it with clock frequency.

  • Raccoonn@lemmy.ml
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    I ditched all top programs on my system, because I have no use for any of them…

    • berg@lemm.ee
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      How do you check what is eating up all your memory/cpu?

      • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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        Just download more, simple.

        • TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml
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          mount google drive as swap. RAM downloaded !!

          • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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            I kinda want someone to make this for shits and giggles.

            • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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              https://blog.horner.tj/how-to-kinda-download-more-ram/

              Already been done.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      There’s a top surgery joke in here somewhere, I can feel it.

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    Does noone use glances anymore?

    • Subverb@lemmy.world
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      Hey, just so you know, “no one” is two words.

  • unalivejoy@lemm.ee
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    Ooh, it looks even better than gtop.

    Edit: Why does the menu look like this?

    • TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub
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      50/50 on if it starts listing processes or launches a new game of Zelda.

    • Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Btop has been rewritten in C++, hence the ++

      • aport@programming.dev
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        Uh oh, time to rewrite it in rust

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          https://github.com/aristocratos/btop/issues/5

  • hexloc@feddit.nl
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    That basically looks like every hollywood movie in existence

    • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿@lemmy.world
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      hollywood is an installable app which when run takes over your machine with a fullscreen terminal and multiple panels with lots of dyanamic data to look like a hacking scene from a Hollywood film. :)

      You can exit it with Ctrl+C

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        Thank you for this, I installed it yesterday and it brought me immeasurable joy for a few minutes :D

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    One I started using Bpytop, I couldn’t go back.

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    • nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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      @JoMiran @zShxck That is very nice. I love the way you can toggle between disk space usage and disk I/O usage. Here is a btop of the machine that friendica.eskimo.com is running on:

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    I just wish there was a .deb package.

    Still gonna get around to making a playbook for installing it someday. btop (and it’s predecessors) are awesome.

    • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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      There’s a deb in Ubuntu Universe.
      Oh heck, it’s in Debian Bookworm too, and Bullseye-Backports.
      Debs all around.

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        I could have sworn I checked and didn’t find it. I’ll look again, maybe I did something wrong

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    Pro tip: configure a font that doesn’t show open circles for unused braille characters to have a higher priority than your current font to get better-looking graphs.

    On my system, braille characters are provided by DejaVu Serif, and it was as easy as just installing the font.

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      Where do you see open circles? I don’t understand sorry

      • Thurstylark@lemm.ee
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        No, you’ve got it set up right. Many people will have graphs where each character rectangle has open circles for the unused braile dots in the character block.

        Here’s an example.

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    I’m using lcdproc on a 20x4 characters display, it’s enough to see cpu, load, mem, Network, etc

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      Show us

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  • bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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    Both are useless toys for newbie sysadmins who think their job is sitting and looking at list of processes.

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      Nice gatekeeping.

    • Aatube@kbin.social
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      I mean, you do sometimes need to check out which processes are running to debug

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        Aren’t top or pgrep enough for that?

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          If it looks better and does the same thing efficiently, I’ll take the thing that looks better.

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            You have a pre-installed tool and a tool that looks better but which you need to install. When you need it for a rare task, and you administer many machines, it is easier to use what you already have on each of them.

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              Do these programs not work over SSH?

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                Sorry, I don’t understand what you are talking about. Yes, you can run them in SSH session. No, you still need to have them installed on the remote machine to do this. And installing diagnostic tools is not only time consuming, sometimes it can be even impossible if you already get in troubles (and if you did not, why would you need them?).

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                  Hmm, that’s a fair argument. I’m pretty sure new server installations can just have their default program list modified though.

    • pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org
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      Teach me how to know which process is hogging my memory or CPU, in less than 5 steps without htop?

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        Launch top? Quick glance, type ‘q’, then kill

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          Lol, top. Try that to figure out the load on a 256 core DGX slurm setup with that shit. Top is barely usable on consumer hardware…

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        do you experience that often ? anyway, the plain, basic ‘top’ command can provide it to you. There’s literally a column %CPU and %MEM

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      It’s not even about sysadmins, it’s just hacker wannabe. tomorrow they will say “coz I waNt to maSter mo sYstem”.

      yep good luck in auditing the 1.5k packages installed on your system.

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    why ? Why do you feel the need to have process monitoring displayed all the time?

    • Trailblazing Braille Taser@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s a tool. It’s useful to figure out if something you’re running is IO-bound or CPU-bound. It also shows per-core load, which is useful for visualizing multi-threaded performance.

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      You can sort and filter it.

      More generally, are you questioning why the Top category of tools exists?

      • WuTang @lemmy.ninja
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        no, I am questioning why do you have those open all the time. in 17y, I never had to. This is just ASCII pr0n to look “deep” .

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          I have it open all the time, exactly for this reason. 15 years and going.

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            Haha, to look deep? Same here.

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              As you gaze into the btop, the btop gazes into you

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          You are right, they aren’t open all the time except in screenshots. :)

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