We live in a world where screens have taken over. Our children’s are showing early sign of anxiety, depression, eye issues , wearing glasses at young age because of being exposed to screens for long time.

Cigarettes had the same effect. Before it was normalised and people use to smoke anywhere and everywhere but then when scientists realised the harmful effects, it was regulated. Do you support regulating screentime as it has harmful effects of childrens and adults?

FYI- Australia banned social media for under 16 which is highly successful and other countries are trying to learn from Australia on how they defeated big tech.

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      Send an email to your local MP and ask them to fine big tech. Easy peasy ! Also while you’re at it , ask them to link IP address to Driver license

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    No I do not want to give government ability to control what I can watch and how much. If they want to reduce screen usage then they need to force companies to change their algorithm. Improve social awareness of how these companies are f*cking us over.

    Also not all screen usage is bad. I learned 5 programming languages online. And developed lot of my skills in Linux by playing Overthewire and HTB. This actually led to me getting a good job. All the things I use at my job is things I learned online.

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      Shut up pleb! Government needs to take your driver license and link it to your IP so that they know what exactly you’re doing using those screens. Always keep an eye on plebs otherwise they start you think they are above the law. Keep all 9-5 plebs in line. Most dont have purpose in life so they think their purpose is 9-5.

      1. go to 9-5
      2. come back home and doom scroll and comment idiotic abd racist shit or watch TV 3 rinse and repeat.
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    Why do people focus on the screens and not what’s on the screens? That’s what needs to be regulated

    There is no time limit that will render propaganda ineffective

    The screen isn’t the problem, it’s the antagonists on the other side

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      Normal people focus on the root cause. The root cause is screen. TV is also a problem , not just mobile screen. Childrens should not be watching TV continuously for 5-6hours. I think government should make it mandatory screen time of 2 hours because people like you who dont know if they are addicted to screen or not so they blame Facebook Instagram etc. If screen time is regulated big tech can’t do anything. They can make their apps addictive as possible but with screen time there will be a filter on top of it. Now you understand why screen time should be regulated. Its time to check if you’re addicted to it or not

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        The hell are you on about?

        Someone who basically just uses their screen to pull up a recipe to make dinner with is not going to have any problems. Similarly for someone who uses it to keep in contact with friends (directly, not via a social network).

        Someone who only spends a half hour a day using their phone, but that usage is scrolling on twitter or some bullshit like that? They’re absolutely going to have problems. It only takes a few seconds to read a post and then a shitty idea might lodge itself in their head.

        Focusing on just screen time rather than the content on it is expressly not focusing on the root cause, and we’re not going to fix anything if we focus on just the symptoms. It’s like trying to ban hammers because someone is smashing your windows with one. The hammer isn’t really the cause of the problem, and the person doing the smashing will continue a different way if they aren’t stopped.

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          100% The root cause is addictive algorithms and big tech not giving a shit.

          One could argue that the fediverse such as lemmy can be addictive (I should really be going to bed rn but here I am), but nowhere near to the same extent as something like facebook or instagram which causes people to be so addicted they seperate themselves from society and social relationships, get driven to suicide, participate in excessive buying due to ads etc…

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          Will make TV and mobile phones so expensive that no 9-5 losers and poor people will be able to afford it.

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    For me, the problem is not all screen time, but big tech proprietary software companies. I don’t support regulating screen time, but I do think governments should regulate big tech companies harder, while investing in free software - that genuinely serves user interests and has no incentive to be addicting or harmful - as an alternative.

    Big tech explicitly tries to keep people addicted, whatever the consequences. They don’t support user agency. Even if you want to make Facebook/Instagram/TikTok etc. less addicting, you are limited to a “show less like this” button that probably does nothing. On iOS and Android, companies abuse the notification categories, and yet there’s no way to filter out keywords or work around this, despite the widespread abuse of user attention.

    If everyone had full control over their own (or their child’s) devices and algorithms, I doubt there would be such a backlash against technology as a whole. But, despite all the bad the techbros are doing, technology can be so empowering when it serves the users. To regulate screen time seems to me to treat the amazing parts of technology the same as the worst parts.

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      I’m with you, my kid is a grumpy mess if there’s too much YouTube time, but watching Avatar on jellyfin? No problem. Things improved once we actively curated what’s available on YouTube and cut out the trash on YouTube kids.

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    We live in a world where screens have taken over. Our children’s are showing early sign of anxiety, depression, eye issues , wearing glasses at young age because of being exposed to screens for long time.

    I have a problem with this paragraph. You present this as fact and I don’t think it is. Anxiety and depression are not caused by screens. More known cases can also be attributed to people caring about this more than ever. More kids with glasses may be more due to improvements in medical care. We’ve been getting more short sighted as a species ever since looking out for the sabertooth tiger wasn’t a survival issue any more. If you want to get people onboard the arguments need to work and these don’t do it for me. 80s kids didn’t get squared eyes from watching too much TV, 90s kids didn’t all turn into homicidal maniacs due to video games - this strikes me as arguments along the same oversimplified lines.

    I’m not opposed to regulating screen time for children. What I don’t think works is a government mandated restriction. How would you even enforce that within a family home? An unintended side effect will be the need to ID every user, taking away the opportunity to use the web anonymously, and risking the leak of personalized information from giant data bases. The risks outweigh the usefulness for me.

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      Sorry to say you’re a nobody and we dont care what you think. We need to catch pedophiles, racist and idiots like they are pokemon. We will start with regulating the screen time and then link your driver license to your IP to see what you’re downloading and typing online.

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    I live in Australia. The social media ban for under 16’s was not successful at all. (this is anecdotal) Majority of social media platforms did not get effectively eradicated (including ticktock, instragram etc…) for under 16s. And at least snapchat (and maybe others) did get properly banned but then a few months later under 16s could log straight back on again with no issues.

    Opinion time: even if the social media ban was regulated properly it still likely wouldn’t be effective, sure children that abide by the law and aren’t completely addicted will stop using social media. But the children that are properly addicted and need help are going to find ways around the ban, like using vpn’s and get driven underground being less likely to seek help since there is now an extra reason for it to be considered shameful. Just like banning drugs, banning social media doesn’t solve the issue.

    I think an intelligent Marxist (not me) needs to do a proper class analysis on this I have found individual articles that have shown links between the social media ban and the gambling industry. And the gambling industry doesn’t give a crap about weather or not the ban is successful they just want a public distraction from laws that prevent the gambling industry taking advantage of the working class.

    I see that your Australian too, I am interested what information shows the social media ban to be successful, I could be wrong but I think it’s safe to assume in most situations an apparent win for workers is disguised as a win for capital.

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      Well I am a dad and my son is unable to use social media and now spends time playing cricket outside with other kids in the neighbourhood. I don’t care what you gen z and millennials say but I am seeing the effect of the ban and I am happy with it. Now I hope the government regulate screen time as cigarettes are regulated in Australia. Make TVs and mobiles.phones so expensive that its out of reach of 9-5s and poor people as they are the majority.

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        Also dude wtf are you doing? You just joined the fediverse like 6 days ago and your insulting people for speaking there mind? Here on lemmy.ml we expect you are respectful even when disagreeing, you won’t be welcome here if you are unkind to everyone who has a different opinion to you.

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        Well that’s good to hear that it’s working for some people. It’s strange how some under 16s can still access social media (without using any work arounds like vpns) and others are effectively blocked.

        Make TVs and mobiles.phones so expensive that its out of reach of 9-5s and poor people as they are the majority. Yeah I don’t think this is the solution here.

        Regulate social media so it’s less addictive, or better yet promote a society where accumulation of wealth isn’t the main driver of big decisions. Overall I still believe mobile phones have been overall beneficial to people who have them.

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          A cigarette addict always says not to regulate cigarette as it helps to them to relax so I understand where you coming from but we will make screen time regulated and then we will get driver license linked to the IP address so that we know what pedophiles, racist and bigots are typing online. Gonna catch em all like pokemon

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              Most people don’t know this but Australia is a member of 5 eyes which means they already do surveillance on their citizens and others. The most idiotic thing I keep hearing is people going on about surveillance on social media. That’s literally shows they will spill BS when given a chance. 90% of population are ignorant and stupid and they deserve to be snooped on so that their ignorance and stupidity van be contained like a fkin virus.

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    Eventually the government will do it, more screen time equals less working time. So less taxes and less production of goods.

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      99% of people spend majority of there time on screens consuming, which is the other half of capitalism and very important for corporate profits. Also social media is one of the most effective propaganda machines ever, corporations will not willingly throw that away.

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    As much as my wife hates me for it, yes, I regulate screen time. My 16yo hates me too, but they’ll get over it lol