• Noxy@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    Give it to them.

    Excuse me? Absolutely fucking not. You don’t get to concede my marriage, and to be frank, fuck you for even suggesting it.

    Instead government issues and recognizes contractual unions between two consenting adults.

    Marriage is not a “contract”. A contract binds two parties to an agreement. Marriage binds many third parties to be obligated to recognize it for things like hospital visitation, privilege to not be forced to testify against one’s own spouse, “married filing jointly”, and hundreds more examples.

    This argument you’re making right now is the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT I was having with people vocally and financially supporting band on same-sex marriage in the 2000s. I thought this braindead bigoted bullshit died in the 2010s, but here you are

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      14 hours ago

      I think you missed the main term in my response. Union. A union is a recognized formation of parts that work together for a common interest or purpose.

      A “union” could be designated to have all rights and privileges that you lay out as only reserved for marriage. But a union could also go further. It could go into any level of granularity that the people of the union specify that might be ambiguous with typical “marriage rights”. If marriage defines everything then what’s the point of a prenup? Also, ALL of your examples can be superseded by other legal agreements, contracts, wills, etc. For example, a signed power of attorney takes priority of hospital decisions.

      I’m making quite the opposite point on same-sex marriage.

      • Noxy@pawb.social
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        12 hours ago

        That’s a lot of “could” and “would” doing a lot of work while ultimately still in support of fascist bigoted bullshit.

        All hypothetical shit when the actual, currently working concept of marriage already exists