The Chrome team says they’re not going to pursue Web Integrity but…
it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”
They say its because the team “heard your feedback.” I’m sure that’s true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.
I absolutely do not trust Chrome or the google team. It does not make me feel any better the only barrier to them trying to ruin a internet a bit is some backlash.
I’d like to believe that enough of us actually stopped using chrome and switched to Firefox the day they made that announcement that swayed them… But in reality I’m sure it was just the bad press and they’re going to try to find a different more sneaky way to do the same shit.
I’ve been using Firefox since it was Mozilla.
Amateur. I’ve been using Firefox since Netscape Navigator.
I was born a decade after Netscape navigator was launched. I’m legally an adult. Wow, you’re old!
Wow, you’re old!
Well, I retire next year so, yeah, I’m that too.
To be fair I still think Google services, Microsoft, etc and all that jazz is great, I’m no corporate shill or some free software nutter, but the issue however is the consistent anticompetitive strategies and vendor lock-in used to compensate for a lack of innovation.
Imagine if you could, for about a month, up to a year long period, where you just use a de-googled phone, a live USB and a portable hard drive, you’ll actually have a different perspective and appreciation for what works with computers, printers, etc and our use of technology as a whole
Can you actually stop using chrome on android? Because every link I click it opens in their webview app which is chrome
Yeah there is a setting and now when I click links it opens in Firefox. But if you use the Google search widget it still opens in chrome, which is to be expected I guess.
That’s not only a problem for google search, most apps uses webview to handle web links. They can do like Voyager and have a option to open the default browser instead, but most of them don’t bother with that.
Dunno if this is what you mean, but you can definitely set another browser as default. Any context menus will change too: “Open with Firefox”, or w/e you’re using.
No, I’m not talking about default browser but the WebView app. For example I’m using Voyager for Lemmy, and if I click on this post’s link it will open the website in the WebView, then I can click to Open with firefox.
But WebView itself is still chrome as you can see
It’s even crazier than that. On some versions of Android there is no webview, only chrome! I think that was around Android 8 or so they dropped webview then re-added webview in the next version
Not proceeding for now.
The Advert People are easily startled, but they’ll soon be back, and in greater numbers.
Bet they’ll just rename it later, like what they did with FLoC to Ad Topics.
They’re just starting it smaller scale. Within a year it’ll be pushed out to everyone broadly.
This is literally going to be what they did for FLoC. Basically release it as topics.
Google absolutely cannot stop tracking everyone at this point. I’m pretty sure they’ve put the entire house on the bet to track people more and do everything to ensure that Google Chrome tracks every aspect of your web browsing experience.
So while WEI is dead, I think Google’s boat is so far out to sea now that it’s either try this again a bit more gently or watch the ship sink. Everyone said FLoC was dead and they absolutely put it into the web browser with Topics. Nothing convinces me this is any different, they are absolutely going to, and I dare say have an existential need to, put this shit in everyone’s browser.
They get the permissions for the little thing that is worded vaguely enough to them funnel people into the larger thing
The “don’t be evil” motto was replaced with “don’t be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay”
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don’tbe evil,butgreedy and posessiveis okay”FTFY
I have not followed this stuff very closely. Here’s a question. This article says:
People took issue with how the Web Integrity API would bring DRM to the open web.
Has there not been DRM on the web for many years by now for videos?
This would bring DRM to everything on the internet. If you wanted to get grandma’s apple brown betty recipe even the text would be unavailable unless your browser and the page agree that it should happen. And the browser wouldn’t give the OK unless the page is advertiser friendly, and the page won’t give the greenlight if you’ve blocked any ads recently.
This is worse. Let’s go with an example: on an Android phone, you visit a website. The website asks for an integrity check, the browser works with Google Play Services to complete the check.
What if you have a de-Googled phone without Play Services, or if you made modifications to restrict Google’s tracking? Then Google can refuse to verify you. What if you installed an ad blocker in your browser? Google can refuse to verify you.
If you fail verification, the website could ask you to complete a captcha, or just refuse to show you anything.
One set of standards for the internet systems, and multiple measurements and methods I say, hardly makes sense to split the whole web to pieces over advertising money, especially when access to knowledge, strength, capability to invent and discover of all sorts is now at such an all time high.
We’ve yet to build anything on the moon or create livable spaces in outer space
…yet.
Yeah gotta wait for the heat on this antitrust probe to die down before doing the dirty.
K, I’m still not using Google search engine anymore. And once I find a replacement for any other Google services and devices I have, it’s out with those as well.
Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.
We’ll see how this shakes out in a year.
Eternal vigilance is the price for a free web.
Do we get freedom with it or do we have to double eternal vigilance to get both? 🤔
I believe the scale is
n * log2(n).
Floc returned as something else, we will see this come back I am certain
I don’t care what Chrome does to fuck every single users possible, provided that it doesn’t affect FF.
This integrity thing was one of the worst thing they could’ve ever come up with that would’ve definitely affect me.
Fuck them. Fuck with your own users. I ain’t one.
That’s the problem. They could have made it a requirement for a site to work in Chrome. And since Chrome has such a majority sites would have to comply. Then the other browsers would have to fall in line or just stop working with most websites. Google’s monopoly is complete enough that they can dictate how the web works. You need to both care what chrome does and care that other people are still using it or you’re just as fucked as they are.
I am not asking for much. Just break up Google and throw both the big shareholders as well as the executives in jail for the rest of their lifes. If you go as far and decide to take all their money and spend it on social services, healthcare and education for the general public, I wouldn’t be mad.
“All I’m asking for, is giving some people life imprisonment for an action that currently is completely legal.”
Listen, I’m completely for seizing the means of production and stuff. Google is evil. They can go fuck themselves. However, saying something so incredibly stupid (like you suggested above) voids any credibility that you have.
You are getting mad at an internet post by a random person who has exactly zero credibility to begin with. I sourced nothing, I claimed nothing, I didn’t even pretend that any opinion I hold is of value. As much as I am for calling out shit and as much as I applaud you doing that if for no other reason than out of principle, why? Why don’t you use your brain against someone actually doing harm and argue with a shitpost done by a shitposter on a platform that is mostly about shitposting instead?
All of that pointless stuff aside: Legal ≠ Right I hope you will agree with me on that. We’d like to pretend the rules we make up are just. We’d especially like to believe that if they are democratically legitimated someway or another, they must be morally okay. That is not the case. It never was and never will be. If you base your whole stance on something being legal, then that’s a huge issue in and of itself.
At this point in history money is power is law. If you are rich enough, you have to be the utmost incompetent idiot around to do something blatantly illegal and get in trouble for it. I for one don’t think this is the way. So maybe a bit more anarchy from time to time would serve us all well to balance out rich people’s crap.
Also: It’s a shitpost. A freaking shitpost. Vote it down and move on. I’d do the same if I didn’t think it would be worth engaging with you.
You are getting mad at an internet post by a random person who has exactly zero credibility to begin with. I sourced nothing, I claimed nothing, I didn’t even pretend that any opinion I hold is of value.
Listen… Humans find patterns everywhere they go. That’s just how humans work. Your idea is clearly a left wing idea (anti-corporation, breaking monopolies, etc.). I get it. I support this ideology. However, when you call for imprisoning people for life right beside the presentation of this idea, you unknowingly draw up a terrible association to it. Unfortunately, the first thing that people think about when they hear “communism”, is “gulags”. You unknowingly reinforce people’s beliefs regarding this.
All of that pointless stuff aside: Legal ≠ Right I hope you will agree with me on that.
Agreed completely. However, I don’t think that the solution for this is undermining law and order. Vigilantism helps nobody. Except for non-democratic systems, violence always leads to your idea being dismissed immediately. Hence, it should be avoided as much as possible (except in cases where you are in immediate danger).
Also: It’s a shitpost. A freaking shitpost. Vote it down and move on. I’d do the same if I didn’t think it would be worth engaging with you.
Words have meanings. Not all people have an advanced sense of humor like you. At least I don’t. Sure, if you meant the above as a joke, you should probably have put an “/s” in front of it. This is exactly how the far right does its dog whistling.
A: “Black people something something racist…”
B: “You can’t say that bro… That’s racist”
A: “It’s a shitpost bro! Move on… People can’t take a joke these days…”
You seem like good people. I hope you have a nice and relaxing weekend.
Awwww you too!!! <3
