what are you going to accomplish my ruining your classmates big day
At a guess… divestment from their university’s investments in companies that profit from Israeli genocide? You know, the thing they say they want to accomplish?
protesting on public areas or on the lawns is fine as long as they’re not disrupting students, making students uncomfortable, chanting antisemitic slogans, or causing classes to be disrupted.
the protests at rutgers and brown did that just fine
You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?
As far as chanting antisemitic slogans, very little of that has been going on. As a Jew, I’m pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism and I’ve been paying close attention to these protests. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.
Like occupying the administration building? Because that’s exactly what Columbia students did. Didn’t seem to achieve their goals. It did get them a bunch of violent police reprisals though.
No shit it got violent police reprisals. The students are just easy targets because they know that if they actually pick useful targets, they will get a police response. This entire thing is a show at the students’ expense.
You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?
the protests at rutgers and brown did that.
but they also realise that the school is not obligated to listen or grant 100% of their demands
Rutgers and Brown are left-wing progressive schools. The University of Mississippi is not.
And even left-wing Columbia University was a segregated school until students occupied the same building they recently occupied and their demands were met.
Your idea that peaceful, respectful protest always gets people what they want is not borne out by history. If it were, SCOTUS would not have struck down Roe v. Wade.
If we’re going to get the analogy correct, you’re right, Hamas would be the assholes that killed 1200 people at a festival, and then IDF/Israel killed 34,000+, 70% women and children, in response.
Seems like a balanced response from a country which you’d expect to desire the respect of other first world countries?
Oh wait. That’s not an analogy.
Let’s see what happens next? Spoiler! Israel annexes more Palestinian land for illegal settlements!
I’m not defending the actions of the Israeli army. They are doing some bad stuff.
But everyone supporting Palestine as a state should have a week with Hamas at work. Hamas is the government of Palestine. The civilian population of Palestine are getting shafted because the Palestinian government are using them as shield.
If Palestine sent it’s army. Read Hamas to fight in the field Israel wouldn’t have any excuse to do a ground invasion in urban environments.
Meanwhile the head of Hamas sits safe in Kuwait sipping champagne.
sorry but that’s just being assholes for the sake of being assholes what are you going to accomplish my ruining your classmates big day
At a guess… divestment from their university’s investments in companies that profit from Israeli genocide? You know, the thing they say they want to accomplish?
acting like fools disrupting a graduation ceremony is definitely helping them in their cause /s
How exactly would you suggest they get the university to divest itself? Ask politely?
protesting on public areas or on the lawns is fine as long as they’re not disrupting students, making students uncomfortable, chanting antisemitic slogans, or causing classes to be disrupted.
the protests at rutgers and brown did that just fine
You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?
As far as chanting antisemitic slogans, very little of that has been going on. As a Jew, I’m pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism and I’ve been paying close attention to these protests. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.
If they want to achieve goals against the university administration, they should protest in a way that disrupts the administration, not the students.
Like occupying the administration building? Because that’s exactly what Columbia students did. Didn’t seem to achieve their goals. It did get them a bunch of violent police reprisals though.
No shit it got violent police reprisals. The students are just easy targets because they know that if they actually pick useful targets, they will get a police response. This entire thing is a show at the students’ expense.
the protests at rutgers and brown did that.
but they also realise that the school is not obligated to listen or grant 100% of their demands
Rutgers and Brown are left-wing progressive schools. The University of Mississippi is not.
And even left-wing Columbia University was a segregated school until students occupied the same building they recently occupied and their demands were met.
Your idea that peaceful, respectful protest always gets people what they want is not borne out by history. If it were, SCOTUS would not have struck down Roe v. Wade.
This story is about the University of Michigan. 😉
yeah, and causing a scene, committing violence, and holding up classes sure worked well for the students at university of mississippi.
Now imagine if the IDF had shown up and murdered a bunch of people at the graduation ceremony.
What scale of asshole would that be?
Why would the IDF do that?
Better question, is how?
jesus christ you’re delusional
Imagine if Hamas stormed a festival and executed 1200 people for shits and giggles. Now that would be some assholery.
Lucky for us Hamas is a wholesome book club.
Stupid rhetoric.
These are not pro-Hamas protesters, so that’s not relevant.
If we’re going to get the analogy correct, you’re right, Hamas would be the assholes that killed 1200 people at a festival, and then IDF/Israel killed 34,000+, 70% women and children, in response.
Seems like a balanced response from a country which you’d expect to desire the respect of other first world countries?
Oh wait. That’s not an analogy.
Let’s see what happens next? Spoiler! Israel annexes more Palestinian land for illegal settlements!
I’m not defending the actions of the Israeli army. They are doing some bad stuff.
But everyone supporting Palestine as a state should have a week with Hamas at work. Hamas is the government of Palestine. The civilian population of Palestine are getting shafted because the Palestinian government are using them as shield.
If Palestine sent it’s army. Read Hamas to fight in the field Israel wouldn’t have any excuse to do a ground invasion in urban environments.
Meanwhile the head of Hamas sits safe in Kuwait sipping champagne.
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I agree. Totally unreasonable