• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    Are you trying to discredit Riseup and Disroot without evidence? Are you a fed by any chance, or a nasty troll? You can go read digdeeper’s blog on email providers. If you disagree, you may continue to deny, troll and get banned for speaking nonsense.

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      I’ve never heard of those 2 providers and they don’t seem to be any better. I’m just looking for facts to back that and so far I haven’t seen any

      Being skeptical doesn’t mean being a troll or a fed, wtf. I don’t know what you’re on but it seems cool

      As for the « are you trying to discredit … without evidence » I want to answer « what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence »

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        I’ve never heard of those 2 providers and they don’t seem to be any better.

        You never heard of the other two providers but yet you already draw the conclusion that they don’t seem to be better. What does “better” mean to you in this context ?

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          Their privacy policy. They log IP addresses and are not immune to legal actions, and as such, are not really better than Proton in terms of legal actions

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            Their privacy policy. They log IP addresses and are not immune to legal actions, and as such, are not really better than Proton in terms of legal actions

            They log IP addresses ? Source ?

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              Source: the 3 first words of my comment…

              https://disroot.org/en/privacy_policy Section 4.1

              You’re the ones defending a service yet you don’t know that. Seems like someone who just found out the service can do better research. But hey, thanks for not being overly aggressive and claiming to know everything like this other guy.

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          Yes. I am surprised people are downvoting me and upvoting him. He is the one who did no research, and I am on the opposite end of the spectrum. I write guides lol. This is privacy community. Anyone remotely serious about privacy must have heard of Riseup, Disroot, Posteo and others.

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            You react to small disagreements with insults, accusations of the user being a fed and threats of censorship (banning him because you disagree with him). I have no idea if you’re an admin on lemmy and actually have the power to do this, but this is fairly downvoteable in my view.

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              What if I started allowing idiots claiming Apple is privacy friendly and people should absolutely trust Google Nest speakers because Google is a big company?

              Disagreements are not small, when someone attempts to establish alternative reality as facts. This is why the bold stance is necessary.

              Let me ask, how many years have you been deeply into the privacy endeavours? And I mean deeply. 2? 3? 5 years? I was using Tor before I hit teenagehood. You need a certain level of authority to keep such problems at bay, when one is unwilling to listen, act proud of not researching and double down on their nonsense takes. Maybe you like the shitty advice given on Reddit or other garbage privacy communities where Brave, Pixel and iPhone are recommended, but this is not going to be one. Privacy communities are full of half knowledge loonies and grifters, and there is almost no defense against it.