• Ifera@lemmy.world
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        For the planet? Doubt it, the amount of primary forests being razed to grow soy, displacing local wildlife be it flora or fauna, and especially with locals, usually already living in difficult situations before being forced to move, is horrid.

        I am glad college gave me the habit of fact checking myself, turns out I was wrong as fuck. True, soy is a water intensive but not as water intensive as many other crops or meat. And a lot of companies buy cheap land, raze what was there, “poison” the soil with specific fertilizers that change the properties of said land so the soy can prosper, while also alienating the local plants, however most companies that do this, do it to feed livestock, since soy is very efficient and resilient when compared to most livestock feed.

        Plus, only about 6% of soy is destined for human consumption, about 90% of it is used as a cheap livestock feed. I still oppose to veganism from a moral standpoint, and consider that buying local would make a far greater impact, but now I can go back to buying tofu without feeling guilty.

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    6 months ago

    This is why I generally don’t like most vegetarians and vegans.

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        6 months ago

        Eat how you want. Just don’t push it on others. Bragging about a diet is kind of strange.

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      Because you don’t like seeing people promote lifestyles that are objectively necessary for human life to be sustained on this planet in the long term?

      Or because you don’t have the discipline to overcome the upbringing that conditioned you to feel addicted to meat consumption, and you subconsciously realize that veg*nism is the morally and ecologically superior lifestyle and that leaves you with an inferiority complex that makes you lash out at others like an upset child?

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        Aggressively trying to force their ideas on people is obnoxious. People should be free to make their own choices. If people want to try vegetarianism, be a resource for them. Don’t shove it down their throats and brag about your superior moral values. It makes other vegetarians look bad.

        No one cares if you don’t eat meat. As for lashing out I believe you already had that covered. And I can give you the greatest plot twist of this post. I’ve been a vegetarian for over 25 years; I’ve been vegan for over 7 at one point.

        Your argument is completely invalid. Don’t make me look bad because you want to brag about your convictions. This is why I dislike my fellow vegetarians.

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          Why are the animal’s choices never considered in this equation? Freedom is something the west places a high value on, but it’s generally agreed that freedom should never go so far as to harm others, yet your “freedom” to choose what to eat is resulting in a horrifying sort of perpetual holocaust.

          Why is your fleeting sensory pleasure (something that can be had just as easily from plants) more important than the entire lives and wellbeing of all the animals you paid to have killed?

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            Why are the animal’s choices never considered in this equation?

            Sapience vs sentience. Hope that helps your understanding!