In ‘mirror world’, Trump is martyr and Biden is autocrat, as calls for violence erupt on internet after ex-president’s conviction

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/17713638

““If we jail Trump, get rid of Maga, end the electoral college, ban voter ID, censor free speech, we’ll save democracy,” says one meme in a QAnon channel on Telegram that depicts Biden in a Nazi uniform with a Hitler mustache”

Apparently they at least understand their opponent’s view .

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
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    5 months ago

    But Conservatism is nothing more than a series of economic and political ideals. Nothing more.

    Uh huh, and what do those policies look like?

    • No right to vote. (See: Kansas Supreme Court)
    • Government decides who you get to marry. (No gay marriage)
    • Government-enforced dress codes. (No Drag or “Transgenderism”)
    • Book Bans. (Criminalizing LGBTQ+ literature or writings by non-white authors)
    • Expanding the Death Penalty to include non-violent criminals. (Currently targeted at sex offenders, but with a clear aim to target LGBTQ+ people)
    • Expanding the justice system to include torture and other deliberate forms of cruelty. (Currently targeted at sex offenders, but with a clear aim to target LGBTQ+ people)
    • Right Wing Dictatorship. (Crush “Wokeness” and make the Democratic party illegal)
    • Genocide. (Calls to “exterminate” trans people at CPAC)
    • Genocide. (Calls to completely wipe out Palestine)
    • Genocide. (Openly celebrate police killing PoC)
    • Genocide. (Lots of literal Neo-Nazis, including in elected party positions)
    • Genocide. (Happy to let poor people die from lack of access to health care)
    • Genocide. (Regularly calling for Nuclear War, especially against Arab/Muslim nations)
    • Genocide. (Regularly calling for Civil War because they want to wipe out their political enemies)
    • Murder. (Calling for citizens to engage in vigilante justice, such as running people over in the street or throwing them off of bridges)
    • Murder. (Celebrating killers like Kyle Rittenhouse and calling them “heroes” for killing democrats/leftists.)

    So yeah, “Nothing more” than some perfectly normal “political ideals”. Nothing to see here. /s

    • Adderbox76@lemmy.caEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I’m going to concede defeat here because obviously I’m not doing a good enough job in explaining my position. But everything you just listed is exactly my point. When did all of those things start occuring? Was it before or after MAGA took over the Republican Party?

      Essentially all I’m saying is that Correlation does not equal causation. All of those things you’ve just listed aren’t because they’re conservatives, it’s because they’re assholes. They just happened to find a party (Republicans) that told them that it’s okay to let your asshole flag fly. Conservatism and Republicanism are two different things. Always have been. Conservatism is economic theory (low taxes, high privatization, lower goverment oversight, etc…) Republicanism is political theory (immigration, law and order, militarization, etc…)

      MAGA took over Republicanism, convinced everyone that it was Conservatism in order to appeal to the “common folk” in order to take over the GOP.

      You’re list isn’t a list of Conservative ideals, it’s a list of Republican ideals. Those aren’t the same thing.

      I guess what I’m saying is, again, Correlation is not causation. All republicans are are conservatives, yes. But not all Conservatives are Republicans (or at least they wouldn’t be if the country wasn’t in the grip of some two-party system bullshit. They’re two very different things.

      But again, I’m not doing a good job of explaining that, obviously, so I’m going to back out with grace and take the “L”.

      Have a good day.

      • OppositeOfOxymoron@infosec.pubEnglish
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        5 months ago

        I’m going to concede defeat here because obviously I’m not doing a good enough job in explaining my position.

        It’s because your position is indefensible given recent history and the trajectory of the political landscape.

        • Adderbox76@lemmy.caEnglish
          01·
          5 months ago

          Fair enough. You’re more than welcome to your opinion. But to my mind, what’s indefensible (and ridiculous, frankly) is painting absolutely everyone on one side with the same brush, no matter how much you may hate that side’s ideals (or lack thereof).

          • OppositeOfOxymoron@infosec.pubEnglish
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            5 months ago

            Uh, one side is unrelenting about suppressing everyone else’s rights, and has demonstrated that they’re willing to take control by force and violence if they don’t get ‘their ideals’. If you’re on that side, you’re an asshole, and being ‘painted’ as an asshole is the least that you deserve.

            Please stop for a moment, step outside your yourself, and ask… “Am I the baddie?”