• sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      thats probably because he wasnt used to saying them when he was younger

      also people’s mental health varies and your dad might still have better mental health

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        5 months ago

        It seems ableist to assume someone’s mental health is what causes homophobia

        My grandpa had dementia when he died and thought I was his brother, and I also never heard him say queerphobic words

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          This is just bad science. Did your dad and grandad also speak multiple languages and belong to an organization that has splintered into factions, some of which whose purpose is to try to destroy all good will and faith built with marginalized communities?

          My mom at least speaks multiple languages and for over 20 years of knowing English she thought that maggot was the slur and the word with the hard f sound that rhymes with maggot was the acceptable one to say. It wasn’t until I corrected her behavior did she actually know it was wrong. She will still drop the f-word because the word association has been long since made but at least she apologizes and corrects herself now.

          See now we have conflicting anecdotes and the glaring question gets ignored.

          Cui bono?

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            5 months ago

            Nice job trying to excuse and downplay homophobia. I’m old as fuck, and we’ve known for a very long time these words were harmful. If your family just accepted the norm at the time and upheld a status quo that harmed and erased queer people, and then never changed to the point that they would just stop, then fuck them. They’re bigots, and they’re not good people.

            And yes, I have family who speak English, Spanish, Korean, Swedish, and Norwegian, and only the completely dogshit ones who I’d never claim or associate with are bigots.

            Fuck the pope, and fuck everyone who’s making excuses for him being a bigot.

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              Only been about 20 years since the push against using slurs. It’s shocking now to watch movies from 2010 and earlier because it’s so prevalent. How far we’ve come as far as respecting other people really obscures how long it really has been.

              Really was an honest mistake, I didn’t find out she had mixed up the slur and word for larva of order Diptera until I audited her teaching class. The other educator with me didn’t even react and told me she had been doing it for as long as she knew her. Not her students, not the parents or other teachers ever bothered to correct her. She loved teaching about the life cycle of flies but her fear of accidentally slipping a slur killed that passion.

              I’m not apologizing for the pope nor bigots at large. Just saying that there are circumstances in which someone who appears to be one thing isn’t, and you should be suspicious of being told what someone else looks like if you can’t see for yourself.

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                  5 months ago

                  Why stop just at him? If death and destruction is how you get your kicks then why not hope for the elimination of an entire people too? If you get rid of all the Catholics and religious people do you think you will get rid of all the hate? What about all the people who don’t need to hate in the name of god, like you?