• stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    If you pay attention to BatMan(at least some incarnations) It is more about how no one can swoop in and change the entire system not billionaires not vigilantes, but instead you must do some pretty unsavory things to be a “Hero” and it often questions what the difference is between a hero and a villain? If we cross a line to stop a bad guy are we any better than him, and if you notice a lot of the time Wayne Enterprise is just as corrupt and even the villains, Bruce Wayne is no more able to stop the evil than BatMan

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      1 month ago

      If we cross a line to stop a bad guy are we any better than him

      Your analysis is correct but I’m so tired of this line in popular discourse and the media. See also:

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        30 days ago

        But if everyone killed killers then the relative number of killers go up and you only succeed when everyone is dead.

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          30 days ago

          Wait, is that true?

          k = killers, i = innocents, p = total population, r = killer ratio

          p = k+i

          r = k/(k+i) = k/p

          If an innocent kills a killer: (+1 killer, -1 innocent) from becoming a killer; -1 killer from killing a killer; -1 innocent net change, so r goes up (bad)

          Now that you’re a killer, any time you kill another killer, it’s just -1 killer. r goes down (because the numerator gets smaller faster than the denominator) (good).

          This means that the first time you kill someone is always bad, but it gets better if you kill more people. You can offset the net cost of the first kill this way; if r <= 0.5, killing two people will do it. So you’re right that if everyone kills one person, the world will be full of killers. But this also suggests that the best course of action is for one person to go around and kill every killer, and then themselves, leaving the world temporarily killer-free!

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      1 month ago

      If I recall, a lot of what Batman has gone through was orchestrated by an Illuminati type group called Court of Owls that controls everything in gotham