• ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Realistically though, that’s how tariffs just work. With products costing more, theoretically that should drive demand down and eventually lead to fewer imports. Of course, if there’s still no competing product or the product is a basic necessity, then it’ll likely just result in people paying more.

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        29 days ago

        Yah, I mean realistically, I can only really see tariffs working if a nation is trying to enter an industry. That’s not the case here, but even so, these tariffs differ from the ones you mentioned because they would be against Chinese imports rather than a specific product, so I can’t imagine there’s as much risk of that sort of market manipulation from happening again… but then again, I’ve got no idea.

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          29 days ago

          If you’ve got no idea then why argue?

          There isn’t a competition in the market between Malaysian washing machines vs Chinese washing machines, in reality the tariffs will affect Chinese goods mainly, and any industry will raise prices to pocket the difference as we saw in the above example. It was more than just a single appliance that raised the prices.

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    30 days ago

    Yes. We will pay for the tariffs.

    American companies will pay for the tariffs, and then we the consumers who buy their products will pay for the tariffs via price increases.

    This is money that we will invest. It is a tax. It is the government causing us to spend more money.

    It is not a usual tax in the sense of money paid to the IRS. But it is an economic cost that we will pay in order to support a government policy.

    The cost is paid to enact a certain outcome. The outcome is less importing of goods, and more of those goods being provided by sources within our borders. It will cost money to make this change. That cost will be paid by us.

    We are being forced to pay money to enact a policy. That’s how it’s essentially a tax.

    Except this policy is basically:

    • More stuff that American consumers consume, will come from American companies
    • There will be more manufacturing capability to meet this demand
    • There will be more demand for American labor, improving the lives of American workers
    • We will be more militarily capable due to being able to build more things in-house

    That is a set of changes being targeted by this policy. We will pay for this policy by paying higher prices. The intention, the hope, is that the policy will pay for itself in terms of the third bullet point: more manufacturing in America means more jobs for Americans. More demand for American stuff means better bargaining position for American workers, means more income.

    In the short term it’ll suck. Just like any other heavy tax can suck in the short term, before the benefits can manifest and make it worth it.

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      30 days ago

      This was tried under Trump the first time and it was an abject failure.

      Trump’s tariffs raised the price of foreign made dishwashers by 20%. American manufacturers also jacked up the cost of their appliances, in order to match that price that customers were paying. As a result there was no incentive to change consumer behavior and there was no boost in “buying American.”