• crapwittyname@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Capitalism is the root cause of a whole heap of major problems. Almost all of them in fact. I suppose you could go one further and settle on greed as the cause. But since capitalism is institutionalised greed, it still wouldn’t excuse capitalism even if you did.

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      Lol, right. So let’s break down this down since Communism has miserably failed every test and attempt it’s attempt at being used as a socioeconomic ideology:

      • Communism doesn’t stop greed.
      • Communism doesn’t stop exploitation of human labor.
      • Communism sure as hell doesn’t stop famine

      So what you and this are article are saying is that all those previous failures of Communism wasn’t it’s fault, but rather…Capitalism? I’m not making a claim that Capitalism solves those same problems, but it at least doesn’t offer a more fluid movement inside an economic system. You would be a Serf under Communism with no ability to pick and choose what you’d like to do in said system. I won’t even get into the built-in ruling class bullshit it brings along.

      Is this another one of those “Well if EVERYONE just used Communism, THEN it would totally work just fine!” arguments in its favor, is it?

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        Tbf, the approach of capitalism is to make a couple people an obscene amount of money at the expense of destroying the viability of the planet, and already includes serfdom baked in.

        Also, other attempts at communism were immediately attacked as “it won’t work,” while the countries saying that implemented policies to ensure that it didn’t.

        Its not a perfect solution, and ofc it may have failed on its own. But I’d argue that capitalism as its now maintained means you’ll get your comfort now at the expense of future generations.

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          That’s not true at all. You’re talking about a specific style of Capitalism that became rampant in the US, and has accelerated the greed, the class warfare, and the expense of future generations. Capitalism as an economic principal works pretty great in places that braces for the greed and corruption, and have guardrails to stop it from taking hold. There are also better social programs in those places.

          Communism failed because of its own obtuse idealism which is sophomoric and stupid. If humans were inherently good and worked well together, we would even need economies, DUH.

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            I always enjoy when someone who has evidently never read anything about what actual socialists think stream-of-consciousness debunks socialism as if these sorts of ideas aren’t literally some of the first things Marx and Engles write about.

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              I have no idea what you’re thinking, nor do I care. You want to talk about the principle nature of things, here I am. Do not care for your slant on it. Your opinion isn’t special.

              Edit: keep downvoting my past unrelated comments lol. Just like a Socialist 😂

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                Yeah if you cared it would seem like you’ve read a book at some point, which you don’t.

                I’m not sure if you understand the down votes are from appearing willfully ignorant.