- cross-posted to:
- world@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- world@lemmy.world
Summary
Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.
His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.
Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.
Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.
Ukraine doesn’t have much a choice because they’re losing the war.
Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you’ve been so propagandized to believe that it’s impossible for Ukraine to lose.
There are concensions and then there’s functionally disarming so you can be attacked even more easily in 5 years.
What do you mean “more easily attacked”?
Ukraine losing the war means it’s no longer a sovereign state.
I’m sorry, but saying that everyone else who doesn’t agree with you is propagandized is at least lazy if not childish and trolling behavior.
Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn’t achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won’t be able to keep it up.
There is no sense to give to Russia concessions, the Russians cannot take by force. Usually it’s the other way around.
You != Everyone else
Yeah, you’ve been propagandized hard.
No, you have been propagandized harder! 🙄
Did you also think Ukraine was going to retake Crimea?
Do you have putins picture over your need?
See, both of us can play this dumb game.
The war is still being fought. No one has won.
Sigh.