• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The Human OS is not ready to be without borders unfortunately. One day, after the last smog-filled breath of air is forcefully exhumed, and all the world’s treasures fail the last baron of wealth, we will be ready. As long as our hearts are wholly material, the world will stay the same.

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      1 year ago

      We literally didn’t have borders as they exist today until a century ago lmao

      The human os isn’t ready for a borderless world my entire ass

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        Humans have built societies with rules for forever.

        And banish people outside their society.

        I’m not an expert on the theory of all of this, but it seems entirely dubious that anarchy could function in any environment for long.

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            In what way isn’t it? How were the borders of the France different than the Roman Empire or Mesopotamia?

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              Literally the free movement of people? Borders used to be “the zone of control of a government” and couldnt really exist as checkpoints for people moving back and forth over the border.

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                That feels like a distinction without a difference? The vast vast majority of physical land borders are effectively open everywhere worldwide still today.

                The zone of control of a government just kicks you out if they don’t want you?

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                  There is a massive difference if you can practically establish who is allowed into and out of a country

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                    So is the argument against technology that allows us to know who is who and records of who is a citizen of places?

                    Like, they used to record that stuff too… it was just much harder?

                    They would collect taxes and keep records?