• MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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    22 hours ago

    U S perspective here.

    I keep remembering that oath our armed forces repeat so much: “… To defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

    What in the flippin’ hell do these bastards gotta do to be considered “domestic enemies”‽

    Because apparently directly provoking all our neighbors to attack us out of self defense, or allying with friggin’ Putin, along with a million other treasons, aren’t qualifying enough? Who over there is gonna actually protect and defend the Constitution and the People of the United States of America?!

    Because dammit we haven’t lived this frickin long, through countless crises and bullshit, just to get shot or bombed by a Canadian we should’ve been sharing pancakes and beer with!!!

    FULFILL THAT OATH YOU LIKE TO RECITE SO MUCH. OR COUNTLESS INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE OVER ORANGE CALIGULA’S EGO.

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      4 hours ago

      The best option would have been for someone in the military to have put a missile into that golf course the day of the election.

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      5 hours ago

      Because that’s not how the military works.

      And in the end, it isn’t up to them. Trump won the popular vote. Not by much, but he’s in the White House legally and legitimately. Doesn’t matter what his ‘popularity ratings’ are now. We The People put him there, and We The People are the ones responsible for removing him.

      Do you really want the military to decide ‘I know the majority of y’all voted for this, but we’ve decided we don’t like that, so we’re overthrowing the government’ for anything?

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        5 hours ago

        Fair disclosure: Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m honestly very appreciative of your counterpoints here. And I agree! A militocracy ain’t good news, either.

        And you’re right: Taking him out over “unpopular policy” doesn’t make logical sense under a reasonable society.

        I’m also aware that our civil checks and balances that should be putting the brakes on stupid policies are falling apart, because they’ve been carefully staffed by zealots heavily in favor of a single-minded, monolithic ideology.

        However, I’m honestly wondering where the line is, that a leader’s blatantly criminal activity can officially brand them “unfit for office” and bear consequences.

        Like if he actually tried to just kill someone for no reason in Times Square, as he boasted he could, could anybody stop him? Or is it just “rules for thee, not for me” and we actually have a king now?

        Because you know if “We The People” stepped in to stop that, we’d all get gulag’d.

        If he decides “lol yeah let’s annex Canada.” Can our forces deny such a stupid order? Even though he is, technically, “their boss”?

        Impeachment historically seems like a “strong suggestion” more than a solution.

        According to USA.gov:

        The presidents impeached by the House were: Andrew Johnson in 1868 William Jefferson (Bill) Clinton in 1998 Donald John Trump in 2019 and 2021

        Presidents Johnson, Clinton, and Trump remained in office following acquittals by the Senate on all charges.

        It sounds like The People can’t really do much but demand that their officials follow through, but even then, it sounds like justice is never actually carried out.

        It’s honestly terrifying to think about, and I wish we knew what to do that was actually effective to reverse course on this absolute insanity.