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    10 months ago

    Making it personal is usually a bit over the top, I agree. Still, the no-bullshit attitude itself is good.

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        10 months ago

        I honestly do not think that it smacks of insecurity. You can claim that it’s rude, socially insensitive, perhaps even that it smacks of basement dwellers. But insecure? That sounds like assumption for me.

        On the other hand, what does stink insecurity for me is the “I need to carefully pick words to avoid breaking someone else’s feelings” attitude.

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          People the can’t get their point across/accepted without belittling other people always come across as pretty insecure to me. “Do as I say or I’ll shit all over you in front of everyone”. It’s like every bully trope ever.

          On the other hand, what does stink insecurity for me is the “I need to carefully pick words to avoid breaking someone else’s feelings” attitude.

          Yeah you sound like one of those “I just say it like it is” types that never quite grasp that “how they see it” isn’t the same as “how it is”

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            10 months ago

            People the can’t get their point across/accepted without belittling other people always come across as pretty insecure to me. “Do as I say or I’ll shit all over you in front of everyone”. It’s like every bully trope ever.

            We’re talking about real life, not fiction tropes.

            Yeah you sound like one

            Stick to the topic instead of assuming (making shit up) about whoever you’re disagreeing with. The topic is Torvalds, not some muppet with a chimp avatar.

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              10 months ago

              Lol, yep, bully tropes are based on real life bullies lol. I’m not assuming anything, I’m telling you how you come across, why are you getting all butt hurt and trying to control what I say?

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                yep, bully tropes are based on real life bullies

                Fiction cannot be used to gauge reality because what matters in fiction is not truth value, it’s entertainment value.

                That’s doubly true for villain tropes (bullies are typically villains), since villains are usually assigned a lot of “random” behaviour, for no reason but to make their defeat extra cathartic.

                If you want to actually argue that what Torvalds is doing is bully behaviour, you got to do it another way, because what you’re doing now is as bloody stupid as confusing porn with real life sex.

                I’m not assuming anything, I’m telling you how you come across

                Yes, you are being an assumer. And now a liar, too. I wasn’t born yesterday, and I can easily see the implicature being conveyed by your “lol u sound liek”.

                why are you getting all butt hurt

                And now you’re being an assumer again. Worse: being an assumer towards things that you cannot reliably know, such as the emotional state of someone on the internet.

                Stop wasting my time with off-topic shit that you make up. Unless you want both of us playing this game.

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                  You’re being utterly bizarre and seem to have confused the word trope to mean TV trope. What Torvalds does is literal bullying, he’s literally been accused of literal bullying in the past and literally stepped away from Linux to work on it.

                  Yes, you are being an assumer.

                  You now sound like a child.

                  Stop wasting my time with off-topic shit that you make up. Unless you want both of us playing this game.

                  Playing what game? Why are you so intent on controlling what I’m allowed to and not allowed to say?

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                    You’re being utterly bizarre and seem to have confused the word trope to mean TV trope.

                    Emphasis mine. For the third and last time,

                    stop assuming = making shit up

                    No, I am not confusing tropes with TV Tropes; I’ve linked TVTropes because it’s a good resource to talk about tropes, a subject that YOU introduced through your idiotic “but bully tropes lol haha” reasoning, and it shows two things:

                    • why your reasoning is garbage (link to Kick the Dog trope)
                    • why fiction in general is not a reliable way to talk about reality (link to Reality is Unrealistic trope)

                    You’re inadvertently proving why people like Torvalds chew some individuals out: because they don’t learn with the carrot, you need to metaphorically bash their skulls with a 3m large stick, and unless you use the stick they’ll keep doing the same sort of stupid shit over and over and over. Such as “i dun need to unrurrstand wut dis function does X-D I assooome its fine here lol!!@one lmao!11”, or “I dunno things about ppl on teh inrurrnet but I can assooooome lol”.

                    At least you’re wasting the time of a nobody in Lemmy with your stupidity… or rather you were, as not even the nobody is willing to waste any time further with your blatant irrationality.

                    [If anyone else actually bothered to read what that assumer above wrote, and noticed something that is not completely garbage, feel free to point out.]