Like y’all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I’ve met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don’t know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given “fame” when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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    your argument is a bit extreme, it doesn’t need to only be software from nice folks, it just needs to not be software made by not nice folks

    apart from sqlite, i think everything is replaceable with a bit of compromise

    what things made by not nice folks are you locked into?

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      I agree with the sentiment of supporting nice folks, especially in the FOSS ecosystem.

      What OS are you going to use on your Smartphone if you remove software from Google and Apple? What VR headset are you going to use? What telecom are you going to use? Are you only going to shop in local food markets? Lemmy’s creators are also biggots, yet here we are…

      I financially support projects and people I like, but I use whatever software I enjoy using. FOSS, closed source, made by a nice guy, bad guy. If I feel my experience is good I’ll use that, if something better appears along the way I’ll move on. I don’t want to be a cop and background check the political views of whoever created all the software, hardware, services, movies, books, etc I use. I’d do nothing else with my life.

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        what os are you going to use on your smartphone if you remove software from google and apple?

        aosp, fdroid, no gservices

        what VR headset

        not into vr so can’t say

        what telecom

        sadly, not a good one. i wish i had a choice, but this isn’t software

        are you only shopping in local food markets?

        sort of? i get fresh stuff from actual markets when i can and when i go for groceries i avoid ultra processed stuff from big multinationals, making sure of the provenance and the maker of the stuff i get, supermarkets also sell stuff from local producers

        lemmy creators are bigots

        eh, im still leeching off some other person hosting, im not going to host lemmy and im slowly making my own thing

        also can you provide examples? i heard it multiple times, I’m not contesting it, just kinda want to see myself, like with vaxry, and not only trust second hand accusations

        i don’t want to be a cop and background check

        no absolutely fine i don’t check all my software too, but when i hear a callout i dont hide behind “art and artist” mentality and move off the bigot’s stuff

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          While aosp with microg is a step into the right direction, it’s not Google free. Most android code is made by Google and streamed to aosp.

          So you think people must only use software made by nice guys but you can use hardware, services, books, movies, etc. from whoever? What makes software so special?

          You’re not hosting a lemmy instance but here we adding content, and therefore value, to the platform. I don’t host hyprland either, I am leeching off the entire devs work for zero dollars. Does that make it okay now?

          I give more importance to qualities like open source, safety, privacy and performance other than who supports trump or not.

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        What OS are you going to use on your Smartphone if you remove software from Google and Apple?

        People in the FOSS community constantly talk about the best ways to minimise use of Google, Apple and Microsoft products. That is an absolutely valid motivation for choosing to use one project over another.

        If someone is willing to use the behaviour of a company or its owners as a factor when choosing a software stack, presumably it’s valid to apply the same sentiment to development teams of smaller projects too.

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          I’ve gone though the Degoogle journey myself but there’s just no way to run a phone without software made by jerks. And that’s one example.

          You can use whatever criteria you want yo pick software, that’s fair. I don’t tend to include politics and personality into the equation myself but I’m not imposing anyone to do the same.