• qyron@sopuli.xyz
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    1 day ago

    This sort of thing always strikes me as odd.

    There are agreed rules on language, some parliaments have dress code but besides penalties or fines a representative can be served with under no situation a representative can be barred from exercisizing their dutifully elected functions.

    I have representatives in my national assembly with criminal charges that none the less exercise as they have been elected.

    This is plainly stupid and abusive.

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      41 minutes ago

      This is plainly stupid and abusive.

      Layers of bureaucracy mostly exist to insulate the ruling class from anything that may threaten their power.

      The solution, as usual, is to lose faith in the system and fight back in the ways you can. Namely, your wallets.

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        35 minutes ago

        My wallet as no place in this conversation. It is just a battered piece a leather that is currently struggling to hold two bank cards, some coins and a few receipts. And my identification cards.

        Fight with your vote. Support smaller parties. Be politically active. Demand change.

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      11 hours ago

      In New Zealand it is pretty common for members of parliament to get thrown out of the chamber for a whole bunch of reasons. In general you have to do whatever the speaker says, sort of like you would a judge in a court proceeding. There’s a whole lot ( perhaps dated ) rules around treating other members of the house with respect, letting them speak when their part of the process is up etc.

      I think most of this is covered by this list of rules: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/parliamentary-rules/standing-orders-2017-by-chapter/chapter-3-general-procedures/

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      I don’t know about the NZ parliament, but in the UK parliament upon which it is based it absolutely possible for members to be thrown out of the chamber. It’s not even that rare. Famously Dennis Skinner was kicked out for calling them Prime Minister David Cameron “Dodgy Dave” and refusing to retract it.

      Are you quoting some rule or just your own expectation?

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        1 day ago

        I’m in Portugal. I’ve seen direct insults exchanged between representatives, a clear violation of manners and language, and the representative was not removed from the chamber. Their word was removed, a sanction issued, but that was it. We have representatives with active criminal charges in place that were not removed.