Also, do y’all call main() in the if block or do you just put the code you want to run in the if block?

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
    10·
    3 days ago

    Agreed, when building the wheel in python we can also define entry points like a main function, and run it the same way the compiled C code is run.

    These people are comparing the interpreted raw python code to a compiled C binary. My dudes, bash doesn’t have a main function either and no one is fucking complaining.

    • chaospatterns@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      3 days ago

      bash doesn’t have a main function either and no one is fucking complaining.

      I don’t complain about Bash’s lack of features because I choose not to write Bash scripts and instead use saner languages.

      • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
        4·
        3 days ago

        What other saner languages do you use for scripts, though? All scripting languages share the particular complaint showcased in this post.

          • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 days ago

            the main issue presented in the meme is that python is “weird” because it doesn’t have a default launch entrypoint like rust (I think) and c/c++. Both are compiled languages and python is generally not. When python is used in a compiled manner (wheels) however, it also does have a way to specify entrypoints, so the meme is comparing specifically compiled languages with interpreted scripting languages.

            However, python is not weird at all about not having a general entrypoint in the scripting interpreted form, because all the other interpreted scripting languages work like that! Examples include all shell script languages like bash, zsh or fish, and other languages like javascript or R are similar.

            The one I responded to however stated that they don’t care that bash is similar because bash is also “insane” or “not sane”, but as previously stated in this comment, all scripting languages have a lack of a funcion based entrypoint for their scripts, so I wonder which language are they using for their fast scripting if even bash is “not sane” for them.

            My underlying point that i was trying to make in my first comment on this chain is that complaining that tools that are used in different use-cases are not similar is a pretty uneducated take that clearly shows a lack of diverse experience in the field.

            Note: In my first comment on this chain I was expanding upon the comment of the one I responded to, as you can see that they are making a similar point when specifying that python’s example is a different thing than the ones on top.

          • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 days ago

            You mean the “want to be zsh but with a specific config instead of having the liberty to do anything” shell? /s

            Jokes aside, regardless of your shell of choice, in companies there are tons of scripts that launch programs, processes and so on, that will generally be coded in bash. Scripts that process files, take the output, send emails… All in a single script. The shell of remote nodes won’t be zsh or fish, it will be bash, and a lot of them won’t even have vim installed, only vi. Like it or not, bash is heavily used in a looot of places.

      • Caveman@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        Bash combines quick, dirty and fast in exchange for readable. Bash is also nice for terminal functions like opening a set of programs and whatever

    • poopsmith@lemmy.mlEnglish
      32·
      2 days ago

      I don’t see a lot of people building web servers in Bash. I think part of the point is that Python is a scripting language that likes to cosplay as a GPL.