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    If they can’t manage to trick the stupids into supporting Medicare cuts, then tricking them into killing themselves with dangerous medical misinformation is another way to reduce government spending.

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    Well that would weed all the diabetics out of the American gene pool in just a few days. I’m not sure diabetics are the real problem though.

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      They are just telling states that they’re not going to subsidize medical care anymore. It’s part of the push to do the *reverse *of nationalized medical care. This will be followed by a “yuuuge” new plan to pump federal funding into medical insurance companies.

      This is corporate oligarchy everyone. It means you’re not a citizen worthy of living unless you’re profitable

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        I hope that California decides to withhold taxes from the federal government, and institutes universal healthcare. Maybe the blue states can have a compact to form a universal healthcare medical network between them?

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          That would basically be secession. It doesn’t sound like Newsom wants to secede, if anything he seems to want to “play ball” with the administration. Our states are still deeply tied to each other and the federal government, a lot of the talk that’s been going around about what states can and cannot do is misinformation designed to make us think we’re not actually a “united” states. It’s more attempts to sow disconnection from community and to promote radical individualism. United fronts can do a LOT of harm to a government trying to get away with nefarious shit.

          What will be more likely in the near-term future is states that have money and surplus will subsidize their own healthcare options. Which California already does to a large degree. But they may have to step it up as their citizens lose federally funded benefits.

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    They’re all fucking weirdos and idiots if I had a shop I couldn’t trust any if this lot to work the till alone. If they where poor they would have all died by now.

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    A good rule of thumb whenever I hear anything about what this administration does in regards to health I try to look at it through the lens of eugenics. They want to get rid of the people they consider “weak” and think that using money to help those that need it to be a waste of money. People with autism, weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, poor people, drug addicts, and pretty much anyone else they consider undesirable and less than human. Also, they consider our tax money as their personal bank account as if the country was a company and our taxes are their profits. Pretty fucked up, but it makes more sense than trying to rationalize clearly irrational behavior.

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    Ahh yes, the starvation diet is back on the menu for type 1’s, boys!

    I recall back in the day the longest anyone lived on the starvation diet before insulin developed was a year or 2.

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      depends on how far along typ1 diabetes damages the iselt cells in the pancreas. the diet most likely wont work if you cant produce insulin anymore, especially you can get unreliable walmart reliant otc isulin. theres a slow decline insulin production as your islet beta cells get destroyed.

      one of the rare ways around it if someone is on immunosuppressants all the time from organ transplant.

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        Yeaaah, between an organ transplant and taking immunosuppressant the rest of my life, or just continuing to take insulin, I think I’ll take insulin.

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    To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
    It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.

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      There’s no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

      Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don’t let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

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      To be fair

      Well there’s your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).

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      You do know there are different types of diabetes, right? And a lot of different things that can lead to diabetes?

      Some people do get there, in part, due to poor diet, but not everyone.

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      Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.

      Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.

      Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.

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      It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.

      Not really. Anyone who actually wants to support Trump automatically falls into that group.

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    People are too tired and overworked to cook. Poor people are far more likely to spend too much time commuting to work too.

    And their suggestion only addresses one type of diabetes. There’s a whole other type of diabetes.

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      I think its implicit that he’s only talking about type 2 diabetes, which is the vast majority of the cases in the US

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      “Try not being so fat, you fucking fatties” is a reaction I have heard from people who are themselves overweight. It’s genuinely maddening to see how many Americans are sold on the most superficial understanding of “healthy” as “fuckable” rather than “capable and resilient”.

      So much of the Trump attitude towards health seems to be geared towards eugenics against old ugly poors.

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        That’s what’s stupid too is most of the eugenics are directed at things eugenics don’t even “fix” - it doesn’t matter how well bred you are you will get old and we already have plenty of hot and smart poor people, lots of them even have college educations beyond that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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    Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn’t young and fit.

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      Yeah, I’d say yes. It’s a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.

      It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:

      First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.

      Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.

      Can we head them off at the pass?

      No. Never.

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        Can we head them off at the pass?

        No. Never.

        Can it come to pass that their heads come off?

        “All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”

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                The reason it never crashed before is because it never bubbled before.

                The reason it never bubbled before is because the banks never wrote junk mortgages before.

                The reason the banks never wrote junk mortgages before was because they didn’t realize that they were “too big to fail.”

                Massive wealth inequality also drives the situation, because there’s a small slice of people who can afford anything and they tend to drive up the prices of things for other people who can’t really afford the run-up.

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        A ton of T2 diabetes is about lifestyle and not much else that’s still absolutely not a reason to deny a person medical care! What’s next? Denying cancer care if they say it happened because of your lifestyle? It’s amoral

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          Well think about why they’re arguing this point. Break it down logically. What are you actually saying. Like when your wife gets mad you didn’t take out the garbage. Is it really about the garbage or is she mad you banged her sister. There’s usually a deeper issue at the root and you need to find that core belief. This is about the appearance of health and virirlity. They feel victimhood always and so they project strength. T2 Diabetes is a target because of the implication. My wife is mad because her sister is hotter. It’s all about the root.

          Once you know the root, you can target their insecurity.

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      Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way?

      Insulin, anyways. I’m sure semaglutide will still be available, since it’s such a weight-loss wonder-drug

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      This is an effort to kill anyone who isn’t young and fit.

      Or also chronically ill. I’m (relatively) young and very fit, but I’m also type 1 and require insulin to live. It’s eugenics, plain and simple.