• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      You don’t have to support any evil.

      That’s why I cancelled my subscription.

      Why is it a dichotomy to you?

      Because the article is arguing for further US sanctions on Chinese trade goods. If you’re telling your neighbors, at the point of a US gun, not to buy Chinese products then you’re 100% supporting one of these evil institutions.

      This becomes even more dire when you’re talking about blocking Chinese solar panels and wind turbines so that you can defend US coal plants and gas stations.

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        2 days ago

        What? Not buying Chinese products is somehow evil? I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Regardless of what the article is advocating for, it’s making a really crucial point about Uyghur slavery, which is fucking evil, and you’re choosing to ignore it

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          Not buying Chinese products is somehow evil?

          When you’ve boycotted the Uyghurs so you can buy all your goods from occupied Kashmir and the sweatshops of Indonesia and Bangledesh, you’re not buying ethically. You’re just buying into the propaganda.

          it’s making a really crucial point about Uyghur slavery

          Is it? Are we doing anything to raise wages, improve working conditions, or enforce ethical standards on imports at long last?

          Or is this just an effort to whip liberal support for Trump tariffs?

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            2 days ago

            Don’t try to make this about ethical consumption. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Most Americans don’t even KNOW about the Uyghurs in China. Literally any exposure this horrible situation is doing something.

            I think I’ve just come to the conclusion that there is no way you’re going to concede the point that the Chinese are committing atrocious human rights violations, are you?

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              Don’t try to make this about ethical consumption.

              What do you think the sanctions of the Uyghurs was intended to accomplish? This was the explicit intent of the policy.

              there is no way you’re going to concede the point that the Chinese are committing atrocious human rights violations

              When I’ve seen what the NYT refuses to call genocide, I’m force towards skepticism when they finally do.

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                2 days ago

                More than one state can commit a genocide at the same time and they don’t even have to be friends. Ignoring human rights violations because you overcorrected when you found out America was bad is a shitty position, and I advise that you reevaluate your values

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                  2 days ago

                  More than one state can commit a genocide at the same time

                  Listening to Jeffrey Dahmer try to both-sides cannibalism.

                  I advise that you reevaluate your values

                  Towel the blood off your lips before you say that.

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        2 days ago

        It what ways? By literally opposing both the U.S. AND China and recognize both of their complicity in massive human rights violations? Why are you trying to whataboutism this?

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          Sometimes I wonder why .ml people are so american pilled, its like they can not think of English speaking person from outside the us, let alone that most us think the us and their odd ways are bad.