Courtney Love fellated him reportedly, while less than 14 years of age.

To where, please share?

You mentioned that you’re an irritated person, this conversation has run its course.

I’ve provided a direct source from the U.S. Senate and made a few points that have been overlooked. It feels like the irritation is now driving the discussion more than the facts are.

Let’s ignore that the cited historians have a clear bias against competing civilizations and entire swaths of native american history have been destroyed or ignored, as we have and continue to do. Are you sure you’re a leftist?

There’s no productive way forward from here.

Have a day.

You argued that it’s settled pop history myth.

The government stated in U.S. Senate Concurrent Resolution 331, passed in 1988: This non-binding resolution officially acknowledged the historical debt of the United States Constitution to the Iroquois Confederacy. It states that “the confederation of the original Thirteen Colonies into one republic was influenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the Constitution itself.”

Your own wikipedia page cites the fact that women weren’t primarily accounted for in the new government as something special. That was largely a ‘feature’ of european society.

I’m glad the evidence is settled 100% and all the historical record is settled according to you and the sources you’ve cited. Hint:It’s not.

Guess it is done then.

Wikipedia is a reliable single source in academic circles now? I spent more time than college professors will on the wikipedia article.

As you didn’t read the blog post or its sources here’s another excerpt:

Many say that the United States, one of the oldest continuous democracies in the world drew influence for its constitution and governmental structure from an even older democracy, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy.

The very next paragraph which you might be able to scroll to reads:

“The Senate recognized the influence of the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy on the construction of the Constitution in a resolution read on September 16, 1987, that noted, “the original framers of the Constitution, including most notably, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, are known to have greatly admired the concepts, principles and governmental practices of the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy. Whereas the confederation of the original Thirteen Colonies into one republic was explicitly modeled upon the Iroquois Confederacy as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the Constitution itself (3-4).””

It’s ok to update your opinion.

No, it’s just that you made a few claims without any backing sources. Since you asserted a claim against the influence altogether and are a self confessed irritated person, i felt some backings sources would be useful.

As it’s easier to spout off a full paste from an article instead of actually reading - here’s a part I’d like to call your attention to: https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2023/09/the-haudenosaunee-confederacy-and-the-constitution/

Constitutional convention members such as Benjamin Franklin were very familiar with the Haudenosaunee Confederacy nations and their founding principles. He reviewed Cadwallader’s The history of the five Indian nations depending on the province of New-York in America, and he wrote the article, “Short Hints Towards a Scheme for Uniting the Northern Colonies.” Franklin wrote to his printing partner, James Parker, “It would be a very strange Thing, if [the] Six Nations… should be capable of forming a Scheme for such an Union, and be able to execute it in such a Manner, as that it has subsisted Ages, and appears indissoluble; and yet that a like Union should be impracticable for ten or a Dozen English Colonies, to whom it is more necessary, and must be more advantageous.” He worked on the Albany Plan of Union and members of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy attended the Albany Congress, where members of northern colonies discussed forming a general council for their common defense.

I apologize that you would have had to click that and go offsite to review.

It might be difficult for someone who is actively engaging their irritated side.

I don’t think you should just trust me about the Sullivan-Clinton atrocities either, unlike your claims.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-clinton-sullivan-campaign-of-1779.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Expedition

https://www.amrevmuseum.org/read-the-revolution/memory-wars

The Clinton-Sullivan Campaign of 1779

Nice comic, bad attitude OP.

This is a pop history myth.

Since you relied on your ‘trust me because I post a lot’ position in responding (you are making it up off the cuff);

Here’s some additional details about what you allege is a myth:

Library of Congress Blog Post: https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2023/09/the-haudenosaunee-confederacy-and-the-constitution/

Britannica post regarding the Confederacy: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Haudenosaunee-Confederacy

Do click in there if you doubt that there’s a plethora of backing information.

Why lie or feign ignorance? Is this to further the point? Doesn’t it function without the lies?

The current nation’s founding is rooted in several theories of antiquity and the ground they occupy had centuries of similar government.

Seems you’re skipping forward to the current founding of the united states, which was ~1776.

The us constitution was modeled after the local Haudenosaunee Confederacy population’s government.

They were finally ousted by white (terrorist) settlers during the Sullivan-clinton campaign.

Government custom modified Signal, though the point still stands.

They could also abolish the filibuster but they won’t do that because they want to keep it for later.

Another source could help:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/hegseth-self-centered-reason-calling-221749640.html?

Just like apple. 😔

trump hasn’t pardoned chauvin from my research as a note.

He’s garbage and his entire administration is collectively like Darth Vader huffing spray paint.

I was making a (dark) humor joke about the state of everything else going on - really not trying to dig on small joys or your excitement about MicroCenter in any way.

I enjoy MicroCenter and have benefitted from being a few hours from several.

Not sure where you feel like this timeline could be a dream because you’re getting a micro center with everything else that’s happening.

Good for you.

There’s an update on the case. Some’ve been asked/forced into a hostage situation.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-democratic-legislator-stay-state-capitol-refusing-law-enforcemen-rcna225730

I personally take issue with you continuing the in group vs out group mentality. You’re continuing the problem by generalizing. How’s your attitude grouping non city folks into one bucket helping anything?

I’d like to be more constructive than my initial reaction, or yours.

We’re all people. Not all the people I’ve met in either area have fit in your boxes of cosmopolitan and non cosmopolitan.

I’ve known some very racist city people and the same thing from non city people.

You’re being part of the problem, quit.

Apple iOS users outside of the EU are familiar with this too.

I can understand that. There are several expression ‘rules’ that don’t feel right to me.

As a wonder, what’s your ‘first’ language? Did you like it?

I’d guess that might influence your preferences.

I started with (iirc, in order) batch, bash, python, powershell, go, typescript, rust.

I’m not putting all the ‘markup’ languages in there.