NoneOfUrBusiness

Then why do almost all Western countries consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization?

That’s basically the non-aligned movement, which… Uh… Didn’t work out very well last time.

it’s just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it’s their electronics.

We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.

I mean yes, but this ruling is fhat they can’t do either. Since these regions are illegally occupied, their inhabitants have the right to resist said occupation and, therefore Israel doesn’t have the right to defend itself in the same way it would against an independent country.

Admittedly I can’t find the civilian injury numbers (I don’t think they’re out yet), but I found this:

“Even if the attacks seem to have been targeted, they had heavy, indiscriminate collateral damages among civilians, including children among the victims,” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement Wednesday after he met with Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib for talks.

At least, they were indiscriminate enough that the EU foreign policy chief found it appropriate to call them indiscriminate, which makes sense given that they were at least strong enough to kill or injure the guy sitting next to you on the bus if you’re carrying a pager.

Also from here:

Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate against Israel. The group said two of its fighters were among the dead and threatened a “just punishment”.

Given that 12 have died so far (9 at the time of the article), I’d expect more than 2 to be Hezbollah fighters before I call the attack discriminate. Now while there is a chance they’re more discriminate than this information implies, I doubt they got enough Hezbollah combatants or combat-adjacent members to qualify as valid military action.

Just because an action has collateral damage, does not make it indiscriminate.

It’s definitely indiscriminate. They chose to use explosives that will cause large amounts of collateral damage. Even if the idea itself is fine, the 2750 injuries are 100% on them.

I mean the people carrying the pagers were likely with Hezbollah, but the 2750 people injured? Yeah no.

Ah, yes, the 2758 people were all Hezbollah.

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Why aren’t the protesters calling for Hamas to release the hostages if they really want an end to the war?

Because that was never the point, maybe? Where did you even get the idea the war would end if Hamas releases the hostages? Have you been living with us this past year? Were you keeping up with the ridiculous number of ceasefire deals Israel sabotaged?

Their propaganda, lies and weapons to Israel will forever be a deep moral stain on the West.

I mean add it to the pile but yes.

That… Is true.

This is a trash analogy because everyone knows Nazis hate Israel, it’s part of their ideology.

They don’t though. Nazis love Israel and historically have never opposed the concept, since they agree on the point that Jews should leave Europe.

I don’t think so. The rapidly shrinking slightly-saner right will probably find it pretty convincing.

Lemme play a sad note on the world’s smallest violin.

They’re still accused?

Please educate me.

I mean… Yes?

In Israel it’s because Israel as a state actively supports settlements. This is why Palestinians don’t just shoot settlers; when you do that the IDF comes.

Outside Israel it’s because that would he “antisemitism”.

Israel is literally an apartheid state committing genocide. Their democracy isn’t worth shit.