No, but it’s been getting stronger relative to the dollar consistently over the past 2 years. But we aren’t seeing that in prices.
I’m not expecting it to be like ~2007 time where £1 was $2.
But things should definitely be better than it was 2 years ago, relative to USD pricing.
The PS5 Pro pricing is testing the waters for PS6 pricing. If they can’t sell well, they can easily drop prices (the PS5 Pro barely costs more than the PS5 to produce). They’re just gathering data on what people will accept.
Doing that with the PS6 is too risky. Sony botched the launch of the PS3 and it backfired on them hard letting MS get a foothold with the 360. MS then did the same with the XBone launch and the PS4 ran away with it.
If people signal to Sony now that the PS5 Pro is way too much (it’s £700/$913 here ffs), then the PS6 will be cheaper. Don’t accept their greed.
If you think $700 is bad, it’s £700 in the UK… which is $913. 🤢
Also:
median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)
median household income, USA (2022): $74,580
A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.
A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.
The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.
The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.
This isn’t SWAT. Or SEK, since this is Germany.
It’s just the usual armed police.
Allegedly, someone (likely a hater of this dev) reported that this dev was going to kill his partner then himself. Armed police turned up.
Guns aren’t the only thing that can cause bodily harm.
There was no arrest.
Idk why this submission is being downvoted, this is some nice work.
The attention to detail in Libadwaita is pretty great
Based on my pricing…
LCD Deck: starting at £262 ($344)
OLED Deck: starting at £479 ($630)
It’s certainly better. But by enough to justify an 83% higher price? You may as well be saying why buy a MX-5/Miata when a Porsche Boxster 718 is better.
Anybody with any nuanced opinion just gets shat on by both
In the UK it works out as 913 USD.
If you think $700 is bad, it’ll be £700 in the UK.
Which is $913.
Also:
median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)
median household income, USA (2022): $74,580
A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.
A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.
The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.
You can’t scale $700 laptop performance up to 4K 60fps without it being an absolute mess.
You mention the tech being similar, that is true, but upscaling from a, say, 1700p signal to a 4K one is an entirely different beast to 1080p > 4K.
Those “old” games would utterly destroy a $700 gaming laptop. You’d be very lucky indeed to get 60FPS even at low 1080p.
My comment was more about the irrelevancy of consoles once they start getting past the £500 mark, used to be that you’d have a good advantage over a mid-tier PC for about 2 years.
Consoles being vastly better price/perf at the start of the generation and then getting overtaken by PC towards the end has always been the case. Every generation at the start there’s alarmism about consoles killing PC gaming, then mid-to-late gen people act as if console gaming is dead. Neither end up happening.
That said, you’d still struggle to build a $700 PC that outperforms a PS5 Pro. You could get reasonably close maybe if you’re clever with the budget, though.
Where the PC library is huge, add in Emulation and it’s even bigger.
I’m not arguing against PC. I think PC is the better and better value platform. I play on PC exclusively (well my kids have a switch, and I play with them, I guess, but just for me personally it’s all PC or Steam Deck).
I’m just saying there is zero chance of you getting a 4K gaming laptop for $700. $1250+ seems a lot more likely.
Even not running at max, you won’t get anywhere near 4K 60fps on a $700 laptop. A laptop 4050 at 45W (the best you’re going to get at the price) will only achieve 80fps in GTA V at 1080p high (not max). What chance will it stand at 4K? Then remember that that’s an 11 year old game (albeit one that’s had updates).
Even if it did have the horsepower, the 6GB VRAM would be used up immediately and render games unplayable.
I think people are underestimating how expensive gaming laptops have become. The $700 ones are good for eSports and old games. They are not 4K gaming machines.
Then on top of that, the laptops in that price range will have a 250-500GB SSD. Not enough for a reasonable amount of new games.
Using a laptop as a console that you can occasionally unplug and play on the go is a good idea. But if you want 4K you’re gonna be paying a hell of a lot more than $700 lol
Even with DLSS or FSR, you’d have to be at a decent resolution for upscaling to 4K not to look bad.
“play older games” basically what Sony has atm
I don’t really get what you mean. Almost all new games that come out will have a PS5 version? Am I being dumb here and misinterpreting you?
E: I checked BestBuy (the only US PC retailer I know of, I’m not from the US), and the best GPU in a $700 laptop is a RTX 4050 laptop edition, power-limited to 45W. Looking at benchmarks, this often struggles to reach 60FPS in GTA V at high settings - a game that released 11 years ago! And remember that’s 1080P!
Not only that, the SSD in it is only 500GB. So just 3-6 modern games once you factor in the Windows install.
You’re looking at a significant price if you want to use a laptop as a 4K console. Even with DLSS, which will render the game at 66% of the display resolution, you’d still need a capable 1440p gaming laptop. And 1440p is ~80% more pixels to push than 1080p.
An uplift of ~45% in overall performance, ray tracing going from awful to decent, hardware-accelerated upscaling (like DLSS) isn’t “hardly noticeable” unless you don’t have eyes.
And more storage and WiFi 7 may not be as flashy (hah, SSD storage, flash-y), but they’re nonetheless improvements.
But, you know, if that’s not good enough for you, don’t get one. Nobody’s forcing you. I know I have no desire for one, (especially not for $700!) I’ve been console-free since my 360 had a red ring of death.
You can get a 4TB NVME SSD for 200 USD these days. And of course Sony wouldn’t pay retail price.
2TB, what Sony went for, does appear to have (just barely) the lowest price per GB right now though. $0.48/GB vs $0.52/GB for a cheap 4TB NVME SSD.
Honestly I’m surprised they didn’t also release a 4TB version. But I imagine they may release it later so they can get a second wave of PS5 Pro headlines later on.
Same as the PS4 Pro: it’s significantly more powerful, has more storage, can actually do RT well, etc.
The price seems crazy to me though.
E: it’s occured to me that the PS5 Pro pricing is likely a (comparatively small) release that they can test the waters for a $700 PS6.
If they release the PS6 for $700, it could backfire and compromise that entire generation, giving MS a foothold (we saw how MS ran away with the 360 when Sony botched the PS3 launch, and subsequently how MS lost all that momentum when they botched the XBone launch, and Sony ran away with the PS4).
If they test the waters with a PS5 Pro it doesn’t matter all that much if they have to capitulate and drop the price.
Don’t show Sony that the market is willing to pay $700. The PS5 Pro being accepted at $700 will guarantee a base PS6 at about the same.
So the most comparable console there is $456, and this is $700.
That is bad.
The PS5 Pro barely costs more to produce.
$700 is bad. $913 is awful.
Just because the PS3, a console universally panned as being way too expensive, was similar, doesn’t mean PS5 Pro pricing is alright.