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Cake day: June 15th, 2023

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  • it’s a stoner thought that for all I know is totally true, but it’s so impossible to either prove, model or test

    That’s basically true for every hypothesis about consciousness, though. That’s why it’s called a hard problem. Like yeah, we can map neuron activity and record what the subject says they were thinking about. But that doesn’t tell us what consciousness itself is.

    And those “stoner thoughts” are how we conceptually narrow down the possibilities via internal consistency, and maybe get to something we can test. Just because we haven’t developed a test for a hypothesis doesn’t mean it’s impossible to do so. And even if a test is impossible, that doesn’t mean the hypothesis isn’t true. It just means we can know whether or not it’s true.

    We don’t really have models to compare too. We have hypotheses, but how do you test them? Is consciousness an electromagnetic phenomenon? Is it purely mathematical? Can it exist in gravitational systems?

    We know precious little about the universe. We have snippets of data about our immediate locale, and ever-changing theories about our not-so-immediate locale. We are specks on a rocky speck orbiting a fiery speck on the outer spiral arm of a bigger speck.

    Maybe consciousness is a fundamental force. Maybe it is emergent and the universe thinks a billion times slower and bigger than we do. We just don’t know, and we didn’t really have any way to measure one way or the other. That’s the tricky bit about subjective experience.

    I don’t think it’s any more “desperate” than any other theory. The only default position is solipsism: mine is the only real consciousness, and all the rest of you could be inventions of my mind or clever automatons. Once you start generalizing more than that, any line is kinda arbitrary. You either wind up at the universe, or you have to come up with a good reason to stop; and I don’t think we have the physics to confidently place that line.










  • I’m inclined to believe every dynamic interconnected system is “conscious” to some degree. Not 1:1 with human consciousness obviously, but the same base phenomenon.

    The main problem is that there aren’t very good metrics to distinguish how primitive a consciousness is. Where do you draw the line between consciousness and reflex? Is each of your cells conscious in its own impossibly tiny way?





  • When I was younger, I worked a physical job and went rock climbing frequently. I did bike to work too¹, and I was in pretty darn good shape. I made most of my hobbies athletic for like a decade, and kept that shape.

    Plenty of time left for sufficient sleep. Not that I got sufficient sleep, but that was just hubris, I could’ve if I wanted to.

    General LPT: Do athletic hobbies.

    ¹ Because I was a badass. My commute was a painted-line bike lane on the side of a 3-lane highway. I get the frustration with constantly being told to “just bike” when it simply isn’t practical for the average person, at least around me.


  • I built a little empire out of some crazy garbage

    Called “The Blood of The Exploited Working Class”

    But they’ve overcome their shyness

    Now they’re calling me “Your Highness”

    And the world screams, “Kiss me, son of god!”

    .

    I destroyed the bond of friendship and respect

    Between the only people left who’d even look me in the eye

    Now I laugh and make a fortune off the same ones that I tortured

    And the world screams, “Kiss me, son of god!”

    .

    I look like Jesus, so they say

    But Mr. Jesus is very far away

    Now you’re the only one here who can tell me if it’s true

    That you love me, and I love me