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01·4 months agoI do enjoy that actually
I never heard that song, thank you.
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This is about a reference to Kent State https://pophistorydig.com/topics/kent-state-shootings/
Came here to say this
Pst, why is Russia bad? It is a capitalist oligarchy. The US has worked very hard over my lifetime to keep it that way.
That’s The number of people deported under Biden and Obama in 12 years.
Just go ahead and look for the bureau of governments statistics and be sure to get all deportations not just the ones done by ice.
Hey buddy so I made this space. it exists to tell you hey no seriously. It does not matter which of your guys is in charge. The US is the Premier force for evil in the fucking world. Just just to be clear of the context of this conversation.
Actually. These are paramilitary blackshirts using handguns, to handle a toddler.
everything was handled properly
can’t speak to how you’ve got to this level of brain damage, but I will promise to finish damaging your brain the rest of the way, if the opportunity presents itself.
Well you can always chat with the entire other school of thought for socialists: “Yeah, what you’re laying out about genocide is accurate. It was a FAMINE. That is what a Famine means. Now use that methodology to analyze the societal context and motivations of any other famine that doesn’t rely on testimonials from Nazis as the core of its evidence.”
I will follow up on this research. Thank you.
OK so the relevant context for why arrests can be so dramatically high but the number of incarcerated people peaked at 2.3 million is first off turnover like it’s it’s not the same 2.3 million people something like a quarter million or more or the same people, but the rest of it is constantly turning over they are constantly bringing in new bodies into the system and recycling them out into the second part of the system. Which is my larger point of the actual number of people on probation and parole, who have severely restricted status in every aspect of life is more than 5 million and has been this entire time.
The probation system where people are living with reduced rights under threat of imprisonment, and the parole system, which is the same thing, but even more severe where they were already in prison and have since been released, but they can be sent back at any time for virtually any infraction. That class of people is fucking enormous. It’s something like one in every 25 men in the country is in that system right now and it’s been that way for the last 25 years.
Like, the neighborhood I grew up in, and I’d say about 2/3 of every neighborhood I’ve ever lived in as an adult, about 1/5 to 1/2 of the male population is on criminal probation or prison release on parole. You can you can look at some of these communities in the United States where you know you look at the quality of life and you’re like wow this is so bad. It’s so incredibly bad. Why don’t they just leave and more often than not you’ll find the reason why is because entire swath of the working population are Directly barred from interstate movement by the criminal justice system in the United States.
Dhs says trump did under 2 million and Biden over 3. https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/immigration-enforcement/immigration-enforcement-and-legal-processes-monthly
Ice only carries out a portion of American deportations , but more to the point they have a vested interest in supporting Trump’s political strategy of talking big about deportations and not actually needing to follow up on it just funneling money to them.
Obviously. it’s it’s like practically disingenuous to just look up an ice statistic and immediately check out your brain.
OK so this is a really old one. It is referencing the late 90s and early 2000s when the US made about 15 million arrests a year. I want to say that number is about half that now. And yeah, 15 mil, that’s about how many people that Stalin Gulag-ed in his lifetime. I don’t really know about it since then, but it’s not like any of the people who talk to me about it do either so . But yeah thanks for calling me on it. It’s important to check on stuff like this and it and it is like a statistics thing. It is kind of just to tweak your perspective to be like hey you know maybe some of the stuff that we’ve taken as a given about the US could deserve a second look and maybe some context.
But yeah, for this particular one like carceral state aspect. I really really don’t think the US gets compared to Stalin Russia nearly fucking enough. I don’t know I might develop this at some point or something because yeah the US is kind of like what happens when a democracy tries to do a cult of personality for like money. there’s the whole protestant aspect as well. I don’t know 🤷♂️ that might be a good fit for me.
Hard Disagree.
You should scrutinize wage theft.
Oh also btw the ‘only 18 over’ is bs. I’ve seen kid kids in jail youth programs and I have specific notes about how and how long it took one of them to go insane in MCCC in Montgomery county Maryland December 2018-february 2019
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There is not a fucking soul that has gone through that program and gotten a job in a fire department. You
Hey you know that I don’t get to make these choices anymore because you’re not temp banned.
This is not an academic paper. The difference between an 18-year-old and a 17-year-old is for people who like to pretend .
This is the US is bad group.
it’s just that on this particular platform you’re allowed to come in and pitch your own brand of centrist bullshit. But you are always coming into my house trying to make excuses for the government. Don’t ever think you’re better than that. That is all you are.
Not particularly, and trying can make it harder to get an audience with them. Not to mention, this is america. There’s a nonzero amount of crossover there and has been the entire time. Ie sometimes quakers Are the state reps and that’s actually the only way to be able to moralize at them with impunity