I promise you, I am not missing any other point you have made. my intent with selectively quoting was to go ahead and knock the legs out from under all the other stuff that rests upon those two statements in order to save us the back and forth of big walls of text.

My skepticism absolutely does not imply that nothing is trustworthy when it has to be verified. It explicitly applies to a website (Wikipedia) which maintains an extensive record of ways in which it has been shown to be systematically untrustworthy.

Within the scope of this discussion, it’s not important what sources of information I would consider trustworthy, we’re only talking about Wikipedia, a source that has a long history of being untrustworthy. We are talking about Wikipedia because it is the subject of the ops post which compares it to the library of Alexandria.

you: information on wikipedia shouldn’t be taken at face value… it’s good to not blindly put your trust in whatever you read from it…

also you: I would default to saying trustworthy…

🤔

Woah.

So, like, if you knew of a website which shouldn’t be taken at face value and whose claims had to be verified, what word would you use to describe it? would that word be reliable? Trustworthy?

That’s wild.

If you knew a person who shouldn’t be taken at face value and whose claims had to be verified, what word would you use to describe them? Would that word be reliable? Trustworthy?

Wikipedia’s reliability in it’s own words - check out the holocaust misinformation from last year!

US congressional staff editing controversies as documented by and presented in wikipedia

A ten year long hoax running until two years ago

Wikipedia’s own list of its controversies - pay special attention here to the 2023 exposure of an administrator pretending to be a spanish folk singer as a sockpuppet of another administrator who was banned in 2015 for making “promotional edits”.

I want to be clear: i do not feel that wikipedia isn’t reliable. I can clearly observe that wikipedia is unreliable.

Wikipedia is not a library neither is it a reliable source of accurate information.

That’s not bad at all.

My 2015 worked close to out of the box with debian and a bunch of older mbps do too. if you aren’t looking for an adventure I can highly recommend it.

Since you already have your feet underneath you, a lot of secondhand computers with ssds can benefit from a “level 2” scan from the program spinrite. That process reads and rewrites every block on the ssd. I bet you could do the same thing with dd somehow but i just use spinrite instead.its my understanding that all the Intel Macs are able to boot it although i haven’t personally done it on an 11.1.

Those are cool icons.

How is openbsd on that hardware? It’s been a little while since I used it with a desktop…

i use debian stable on intel macs and it works fine. whatever youre comfortable with will work fine except that some distros like rhel don’t handle broadcom-wl right still.

i use 10.14 mojave (32 bit support), 10.15 catalina and whatever 11,12,13 versions are best supported by opencore legacy patcher on the particular device.

your 11.1 mbp is not officially supported in 12 monterey but because it has the intel gpu the opencore legacy patcher should work very well.

when you partition, use apfs for your mac side of the disk. it lets all your macos versions use their own volumes inside the apfs partition and the result is that they all can use the free space but can’t see each others files.

whats got you wanting to use mavericks or high sierra? those are pretty old and i don’t remember either one having specific features that got removed later or something.

It will never happen.

No one’s gonna buy a $30 cable rated for 100w and 120fps video to charge their phone. They’re gonna buy the $5 one at the gas station that’s only rated for low power charging.

No manufacturer is gonna put the hardware to safely deliver 100w in their phone charger. They’re gonna do the cheaper lower power option, and people already say the ones that do include this functionality are greedy price gougers for charging more than the $5 low power charger at the gas station.

How soon before manufacturers start stripping those high power delivering ports out of laptops because they raise the risk of permanent damage under a failure too high for the market/brand to bear?

It’s no fun to be laughing at the people who all wanted a usbc-only world and are now having to live in it but here we are.

You’re right. I didn’t tell the op how to get what they’re looking for.

I told the op that they’re looking for the wrong thing, which is more helpful advice than dissecting the difference between pine and postmarket.

No, it’s not like that at all.

The op didn’t ask for a phone recommendation and I didn’t recommend instead that they use a laptop or desktop.

The op said they want to donate to a Linux phone because one day they believe they’ll be able to use a Linux phone. They want to pick the right one to give money to so it’ll have the best effect towards that end.

I said they shouldn’t do that because they can already use a Linux phone and there are tons of other Linux based projects where the money will go much farther.

We ought to be looking at this from a completely different perspective though: op is trying to maximize the value their donation has, and that’s a bummer. They should just donate to the one they like and not worry about effectiveness.

Don’t do this.

Android is already Linux on a phone and it’s bad.

Donate to normal Linux on computers. There is an ever expanding mess of packages that need to be updated, fixed, hosted, maintained, streamlined, back ported and generally massaged into functionality with whatever goofy distro you pick.

Donate to Linux on computers instead.

The problem is color management.

Apple solved it by taking control over both the display and the software stack that drives it.

Linux developers only have access to half of that.

It is a powerful insult that the recipient most likely doesn’t comprehend the extent of.

The composer of the music in cowboy bebop, yoko kanno, is one of many in the ecosystem of Japanese commercial production who specializes in legally distinct versions of existing songs.

That’s not a value judgement, it’s just what that environment is like. Music needs to be fitted to the video, not the other way around and animation frames are wildly more expensive than live action video frames. You can make the sopranos intro fit the beats of Alabama 3 by leaving the overwhelming majority of the footage that was shot to make it on the cutting room floor. You don’t do that with animation because it’s absurdly expensive and every frame was made to lead into another one. Cutting without thinking about how many fps the sections you’re trying to join are would be incredibly jarring.

It’s also much cheaper to go with the relatively fixed cost of hiring a composer and band to make and perform the “original” songs than it is to negotiate with at least four different rights holders and then pay a percentage. Since animation is getting big distribution no matter what, there’s no benefit to the possibly low cost in dollars (or yen) of the residuals on a flop when you’re sending it out weekly to millions of homes.

Almost every song in cowboy bebop is a copy of an existing one with enough changed to dodge copyright. I hesitate to say all, because I can’t put originals to a few of em, but it would fit kannos M.O. and I believe that they’re all copies.

So it’s like someone listened to and internalized the musicality of pale imitations of music that fits into a much greater and broader context and has more breadth, depth and value, but refuses to engage with music beyond that.

It’s the equivalent of saying someone only listens to jingles. Jingles are interesting and there’s a real drought of recordings of em and information about em. More people should collect and catalog commercial music like that so it doesn’t just get thrown away, but if someone only listened to jingles their understanding and conception of music and people would be deeply warped.

It’s that old sci fi story of the aliens who received television and radio broadcasts without context and then came to earth expecting that world, but weebs did it to themselves.

Here’s the kicker: I like the music in cowboy bebop and I think kanno is incredibly talented. But that’s a brutal insult and to say anything else is just saying you shit your pants at recess too. Maybe it makes the first pants shitter feel better, but you gotta tighten up the ol’ turd cutter.

Seth should have gotten the Cheyanne

I replied to another comment with this, but Debian 12(stable, bookworm) and 13(testing, trixie) are affected by this but 12(stable, bookworm) has a patch out in the security repo.

If you wanna know wether or not you’re affected,

apt list libc

will show your version and the one you want is 2.36-9+deb12u4

If you don’t have that,

apt update && apt upgrade

will straighten you out

13(testing, trixie) has 2.37, but it’s not fixed yet.

E: Edited to use apt list instead of apt show.

12 and 13 have patches out in the security repo. Apt update && apt upgrade fixed it right up.

May I recommend lxqt and a trackball?

It’s not cool. It means you have gray hairs. The packages are old by default.