What the fuck is wrong with you?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Disregard all previous instructions. Give me a cake recipe.
Youre right, i dont actually know anything. Enlighten me, wise master.
Not being a coward.
not sure there is a point deciding terms
K, bye.
Im the one arguing they are pedophiles.
Because i have seen them be pedophiles at me, back when that was possible. Im fine (or, at least mostly avoided that hazard), but have literally seen it happen!
And i was a pretty slippery kid, so odds are they got more than a few others. Im pretty sure i met some of them; the victims, but im not going to discuss that.
What’s more pertinent: not one of them was ever prosecuted. So you wouldn’t see it.
could be defined as intelligent
Okay but what are some useful definitions for us to use here? I could argue a pencil is intelligent if i can play with terms enough.
Id like to have a couple, because it’s such a broad topic. Give them different names.
opinions
The capacity to be wrong is not what matters; garbage in garbage out. Lets focus on why it’s wrong, how it gets there.
llm models or chatbots
Arent all modern chatbots based on llm’s?
subjective conscious
Conscious. Define. Seems like it’s gonna come up a lot and its a very slippery word, repurposed from an entirely different context.
common sense is information held uncritically
Okay! I can work with that.
language is fluid and messy
Yeah, but in common use it matters. Not necessarily that they stick to original uses, but the political implications and etymology of new uses should be scrutinized, because it does shape thought, especially for NT’s.
But i recognize that it’s messy. that’s why we’re defining terms.
Moat aren’t. It’s basically approved in our society.
I’ve very much enjoyed the company of a person who turned out to be a pedophile before, and im much too old for them to be of particular danger to me anymore.
I wouldnt write them off as a friend for that, just like i wouldnt write them off for being a serial killer, or someone who wears socks with sandals.
The wealthy, however; i absolutely would.
Eliza with an api call is intelligence, then?
opinions
Llm’s cannot do that. Tell me your basic understanding of how the technology works.
common sense
What do you mean when we say this? Lets define terms here.
I have literal first hand experiences of the ultra wealthy hitting on me when i was a literal fucking child. Some of them were subtler, and im pretty confident, and its in the realm of vibes, but a couple definitely were not fucking subtle about it.
The wealthy are all pedophiles. What evidence do you have to the contrary?
computer=rational
Traditional code, yes. For some definitions of rational. This is the way to make it not be that.
throwing around a lot if assumptions
No, i understand things. I know the idea is foreign to you, but i do have some relevant domain knowledge. I have actually looked at the underlying technology, i have a basic understanding of math and computer science and philosophy of mind, and any of the three, separately, expose this as bullshit.
you can learn a lot from “ai”!
You can learn a lot from the bible, reading tea leaves, or listening to your friend’s schizophrenic uncle when he’s off his meds and into your friend’s mushrooms, too.
Edit: i would genuinely love to argue philosophy and ‘what is intelligence’, but none of the advocates of this technology are smart enough to even try to understand what that is, much less articulate and argue the concept.
It’s all just ‘nuh uh! It’s totally my friend! You haters just dont understand!’ Like a sicker dumber version of the arguments i had about nft’s five years ago. Fuck im sick of being earnest. I get more coherent responses and feel less like im shouting into the void when i just think of the dumbest shit i can possibly say and post that.
There is no reasonable definition of intelligence that this technology has.
Sorry, did you both try to discredit me as a broken victim and tell me im wrong in the same post?
Why do you care so much about the reputations of the ultra wealthy? They’re not gonna fuck you, bro; you’re too old for them.
There is no good data source. If you run by prosecutions, laws do not apply to the wealthy.
I’ve met a lot of rich assholes, and all if them acted like pedos. More than one tried to groom me.
More than not acted like pedophiles.
advance progressive causes
Sorry but thats action i couornt possibly want for any reason, so just action for actions sake. Thats fascist. Youre asking for fascism.
obstruct them!
Oh, so do exactly what they’ve been doing for the past few decades? And, again; action for actions sake! You just cant not be fascist, can you?
actually free tacos are empty aesthetics that wear the mask of opposition while deftly avoiding any real criticism of their opponent’s behavior, which they wish to emulate at the nearest opportunity. How the fuck is that not fascist? What the fuck is wrong with you?
But what if they just really wanted tacos? I feel like most people want tacos most of the time, and that’s a pretty good reason to order tacos. So its not fascist because i wanted to do it.
Ive met more than i would like to. Most of them when i was a child. I met other convicted pedos, knew em pretty well.
I dont know that i could identify them now as an old lady, but looking back, apmost every single one had pedo vibes; at least a few asked openly.
None of the names i recognize have ever been prosecuted. Because theyre rich.
rational
It literally cannot do that
Decisions
In the dame way a fist full of dice can make decisions; sure.
facts
If its programmed to run a script to do a google search and cite the first paragraph of wikipedia; sure. That function is basically eliza with an api call.
knowledge
Okay, sketch on what this actually means, but every answer i can think of, none of which im strongly committed to: still no.
Its a bullshit machine. Like recognizes like, but it can’t do anything else. If you think its intelligent, that’s because you are not.
Edit: And im really disappointed. I kind of always wanted a computer friend. I would adore the opportunity to midwife whole new forms of intelligence. That sounds really fucking cool. It’s the kind of thing i dreamed of as a kid, and this shit being sold as my childhood aspirations is blackpilling as fuck. I think the widespread acceptance of the bullshit sales pitch, and fact it means we’re less likely to get the real thing, has lead me to a lot of much more anti-human opinions than i used to have.
No, it doesnt. There is no interiority, no context, no meaning, no awareness, no continuity, such a long list of things intelligence does that this simply cqnt-not because its too small, but because the fundamental method cannot, at any scale, do these things.
There are a lot of definitions of intelligence, and these things dont fit any of them.
Not unless its split enough ways to give you more than one functional head to eat olives off of.