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  • State ownership of means of production is the very definition of state socialism, thus removing power from the capitalists, which is strictly an implementation of the leftist ideology. I have no trauma, I just don’t live in a lala land. I’m sure you spend a great amount of time thinking about what society could be, instead of accepting what it is and dealing with it. Libertarianism, centrist? Oh please. Its very foundation is rooted in anarchist concepts, distinctively left wing ideology.

    I agree there is no point discussing things any further. Just keep dreaming of your utopia, eventually you will grow up.



  • That is true about the state of capitalism today. However, you choose not to see the relationship between the inherent nature of human tribalism, which is as old as humanity itself, and seeing a large influx of aliens in your tribe, as part of that same tribal nature. If you want to change the human nature, you will require a long time, if it’s at all possible. The left, just like the right, gets caught up in the cycle of “we have power, we can do everything we want, and we want do it now” when these deep societal changes require very long time to be implemented peacefully, perhaps the length of a life time.


  • Thanks for proving all my points. In one paragraph you justify left wing violence as long as the cause is honourable, and in another paragraph, you claim the eastern block socialists as not really left wing.

    I’ve got some news for you. They were as left wing and as forceful as they come. You didn’t own property , everything was state owned, society was very progressive (abortions were legal - ex USSR , socialised medicine, free schooling all the way to getting a job, gender equality, LGBT rights were a lot further than in the west).

    Conservatism/right-wing is not inherently violent, that’s fodder. Some societies are more conservative than others. There are even right wing libertarians. It becomes evil when it seeks to impose its will over minorities or majorities, and in effect invalidate their voice. There are many examples of this from the left and the right (more right for sure).

    If you are not a centrist, you are a dogmatic


  • This is not a chicken and egg problem. Extremists are a result of society’s ailments, not the other way around. . I’ll give you a few examples from the 20th century.

    • Hitler - became leader of Germany because of the impact WW1 had on German society
    • Al Queda/ISIS - got into position of power due to the suppression of moderate leaders by authoritarian regimes ie. Taliban.
    • IRA - the discrimination of Irish Catholics by the British-protestant colonialist.
    • Khmer Rouge - got into power due to Vietnam war bombing of Cambodia.
    • Kokutai - the perceived betrayal by the west after WW1 (yes Japan fought against Germany in WW1), lead to the rise of extremist ideologies which supplanted Japan’s desire to fight against the West.

  • And democracy is an ideology that we are supposed to follow. That ideology comes mostly in the form of representative democracy where you elect someone that is supposed to represent your group.

    You don’t know if Tyler Robinson is left or right , that is all media speculation at this stage. As someone that lived behind the iron curtain, the concept that left is inherently peaceful is complete nonsense. Neither left or right is inherently violent or peaceful. Violence of the far left and far right is always a result of someone who thinks their ideology is superior, disregards all moral grounds, and forces their will and/or dogma on somebody else. Leninist-Marxist, PLO, Earth Liberation Front, too many examples to list. I do agree that the left is generally less violent today.


  • Actually, opinions are the foundation of democracy and therefore must be respected always. You might not agree with someone’s opinion but I’m not here to convince you otherwise. You are clearly here because your extremist voice and flagrant disrespect of anyone you disagree with stands in your own personal development. People like you are the reason the right wingers become more extreme. Proof of the matter is obvious everywhere in Europe. Politicians don’t respect the wishes of the people who elected them. The EU has had an immigration problem for at least a decade , they are now electing extremist and populist politicians out of desperation that their voice isn’t heard. Populist parties rise to power out of general unhappiness of the electorate, not the other way around.

    You might not like them, hell I certainly don’t but you cant change the society in a few years, it takes decades, even hundreds of years. Feel free to drown yourself in the sorrows of your utopia when right wing nutters are being elected all around Europe.