You’re ignoring the question. You said it was all up to the dems. I say it’s both them and non voters.

You act like non voters had no choice. They clearly did and deserve blame. End of story.

They could’ve helped defeat fascism at the ballot box but didn’t. So yeah, here we are… Because people were lazy. If they don’t care enough to vote for “neoliberaal conservatives” over fascism well …I guess they get what they get.

Not even that. Could’ve been a DARE spokesperson.

What would you say to defend those people then?

All those things you say don’t bother the dems clearly doesn’t bother non voters then either. Meaning your criticism should go straight to them too.

And again- I’m not saying Bernie is wrong or that the Dems don’t deserve some blame.

The point being- non-voters also deserve some blame. Let’s stop coddling those who don’t do anything at all.

Somehow we talk all about getting people to go out and vote and when they don’t, who do we blame? The people themselves who are too stupid, too lazy, or too disinterested to vote? Oh of course not. We use our whipping boy, the Democrats and only the Democrats.

But sure- keep telling them that it’s everyone else’s job to entertain them and that it’s totally not their fault if they stay home. Great strategy so far. 🙄

Ignore genocide? No. In fact, if someone possessed a brain they’d vote for Harris to avoid more genocide. But nice try.

My point being- people keep blaming only the Democrats over and over again and never take any actual responsibility themselves. I’m less miffed by those who voted third party (even though that was dumb) than those who plain didn’t care enough to do anything.

If they don’t want to be heard, then, again, fuck them. Hope they get the worst of this admin right after the trumpers who gleefully voted for fascism.

I’m not yelling at voters. I’m yelling at non-voters.

And no, no it doesn’t. It’s fun though- leftists, progressives, pundits, etc. always blame the Dems. Republicans have no standard to be held to evidently. And non-voters are always absolved of blame too. We can’t possibly blame the millions of people who decide that fascism or abortion rights or any other thing isn’t important enough to get the fuck off the couch and do the bare minimum.

So yeah- you keep telling them that’s fine. I’m very sure that you never blaming them will mean the Dems will turn it all around on their own and things will be just peachy.

1- the amount of people who withheld their vote for either Gaze or Cheney has to be minute.

2- I honestly don’t give a shit anymore. I most likely will be just fine. If people want to act like they have no civic duty then I hope they suffer the full wrath of the shit that is gonna come from this admin. maybe when they get hit in the face a million times they’ll wake the fuck up and do THEIR job.

3- That’s horseshit. Bernie was fucked in 2016 but not 2020. So others dropped out and Biden took the mantle yeah? Bernie couldn’t beat him. That is not “the establishment”'s fault. That’s the fault of, oh look at that, EVERY NON VOTER out there who said they liked him but didn’t vote for him. I voted for him and if we go by your line of reasoning- the reason he lost is “because he didn’t appeal to enough people.” Or wait- was it my line of reasoning that is right in that people DIDN’T VOTE? Hmm…

Had a big campaign but you can’t control media not reporting on that and only reporting on what she said of Trump.

And no- the whole point of political campaigning is to get people to vote FOR YOU. Not to vote AT ALL.

Again- Dems might be out of touch or blah blah blah but it doesn’t excuse people not voting. So again, let’s yell at the dumbasses who sat it all out too. Or else you’re just reaffirming they can do the same again and again and somehow only place blame on political parties. That’s pure garbage.

Don’t absolve non voters of their dereliction of civic duty.

They’re supposed to vote and pick the best candidate. By not even voting third party they’ve said theyre just fine with everything that comes.

I say give it to them good and hard.

And if you do absolve them of their bullshit, theyre going to continue to do fuck all every single election.

Just use a sonatype nexus 3 image and proxy docker hub, etc. Then you pull images through it.

You use calibre web. Then on the Kobo you connect it to your computer, backup 1-2 files, then change the store link to your domain name for your calibre web. Simple json file iirc.

Works well but doesn’t sync progress I don’t think.

It is BUT you are limited to their test servers for mobile notifications and they honestly suck. It’s a coin flip whether you get them. And if you want better you have to set up your own container system like them with firebase and Apple Dev ids.

I like it still but for a Greenfield project I’d probably try matrix 2.0 on synapse with element x as the mobile app.

Not sit around and wait for them to enact the agenda you want first and after that you’ll vote for them. Think about how training a dog works.

You deserve kudos for this. Very well put.

I mean, you have but clearly a ton haven’t. Witness the millions of missing votes this election.

I don’t think you understand their point. Republicans always turn out to vote for their candidate. Then they win (at least a good portion of the time) and they vote in primaries and move the party further right. For any evidence just look at the past 2 decades.

Whereas the left just decides to sit out and therefore Dems lose (or only win at odd times.) They can’t count on leftist/apathetic voters, so they go towards where they think they can get votes (ie. people who always vote and if they do convert enough they are profiting by gaining one vote for them and removing one from Republicans.)

Now everyone here is saying it’s soooo obvious that it’s a poor strategy but is there any introspection on behalf of the left/apathetic? How has withholding your vote or not voting in primaries gone? It’s been done for years and society has moved so, so far away from leftist goals no?

So their point is that it probably is a mix- surely the Dems need to actually run on popular policy and leftists/apathetic need to suck it up, vote in all elections, and vote for the best candidate. Pick your preferred candidate in the primary and then vote for the Democratic candidate in the general, no matter what (well- barring something egregious like…being anything like Trump.) Once Dems actually have power, you can keep pushing left. But if people just sit out, you’re not gonna be counted. Decades of that is proof.

Edit- maybe you mean you can’t win the center over with conservatism-lite. Maybe that’s true, maybe not. But someone mentioned Bernie finished behind Harris in Vermont so I don’t know that it’s a maxim.

If this election cost America the Republic then I would argue the voters cost it.

If you can’t be bothered to vote to save the Republic then it was lost already anyhow.

This is what gets me. Like it’s been proven to be a bad policy. So when people say it’s bad do people equate that with “leftist ideas are bad”? Like if leftists want support you should lead with ideas that aren’t bad according to actual data. There are plenty of ways to increase housing and do a ton of other stuff that has data backing it as being an effective use of funds.

Same with affordable housing. We had a ballot measure to basically make a big pot of money and “support affordable housing.” How? It certainly makes zero sense to build new housing out of that pot (ie. it’s expensive as fuck.) Do you just subsidize? What are the criteria? And what are you doing to affect the root issue that is lack of actual supply of housing? Are you cutting red tape? Are you removing minimum parking requirements? Are you developing transit and relaxing building codes (ie. higher is good) at certain lengths from transit stops?

I’ve long seen way too many leftist ideas that are more good feeling than good thought. Which is admirable to some extent but it also shows why they fail. Especially when you take into account that it would help the extremely marginalized but you’re also now asking the already poor “middle class” to foot yet more bills for something that they won’t directly see any benefit from.

And theyre jackasses for that. It’s a civic duty. Go write in Mickey mouse. But you should be voting regardless.

And if you don’t then you can just stfu about anything because you never did the bare minimum to change anything.

And their dumbasses will get fucked by trump just the same. Congrats to them.

You guys think the dems really care. They’ll be fine. But hey, act like youre really sticking it to them. Im sure theyre so hurt and won’t make ends meet now.

I mean, we can blame the DNC some. But we should definitely be blaming Trump voters and non-voters.

The reverse side of this (that the Onion should do next) is:

“Oh yeah. I didn’t go out and vote. Surely the 30th time in a row means the DNC will learn their lesson and then promote leftist policy like I want!”