• ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Honestly, what’s the point of a credit card? Why don’t people mostly use debit cards? It gets just directly wire transferred from your account. No sort of junk fees or monthly subscription needed. Genuine Question.

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      15 days ago

      Tons of cards have zero fees. Some offer rewards and benefits at no real cost. I have for nearly a decade used a card with 1% back on purchases and 1% back on payments. Running all my usual spending through that and then just paying it off has net me a lot of money in that time that I just use for statement credit.

      It’s easy to dispute charges should I ever need to. Rare since I’m cautious anyways, but the extra layer before my actual bank account is nice.

      It has also built up a hell of a credit rating for me as well.

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      I live off a credit card, my money sits inside an offset account against my home loan the interest charged on that is calculated every 30 days at the end of the month so the more cash I have in there the less interest I pay on my mortgage.

      The credit card is free with no fees or interest provided I pay it off on time with that date being every 30 days from the 15th of the month.

      Thus at the end of the month when interest is calculated on my home loan I have more cash in my account then I would if I had of spent 2k that month on bills etc.

      The other benefit is I earn points that the bank will exchange for cash with me so it’s kinda like free money.

      For context I’m Australian with an Australian bank.

      This set up is great if you’re disciplined for anyone due to the points etc however if you screw up spend beyond your means etc you will incur interest and that’s not good.

      I make sure to never spend more then I actually have and it has worked wonders for me.

      In the past 10 years I’ve probably been made about 7k back in points value.

      Cash flights etc all for spending exactly as I do.

      I should note the card is provided to me as part of my home loan package hence it has no fees attached as I pay an upfront cost for the “home loan wealth package”

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      15 days ago

      My debit card is a master card.

      They still need to go through a payment processor, using a debit instead of credit card isn’t really the solution to the current problems.

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      If someone steals your debit card, they can directly take money out of your account. With credit cards, there’s a buffer between the product and the bank account, and it makes it easier to stop fraud

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        I’ve had my debit card information stolen before. My bank knew before I did, cancelled the fraudulent charges, and refunded my money without any action on my part. Doesn’t seem like a credit card would have been any advantage in my [admittedly anecdotal] case.

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        It’s not fraud, it’s interest.

        If you use a debit card and can’t cover a transaction, it just doesn’t go through. If you have a credit card then the bank pays and now you owe them, and they’ll charge you extra for that privilege.

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          You could just pay off your balance by the due date and you won’t be charged any interest.

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        Debit cards typically have PIN numbers.

        I know these can be defeated in various ways, but its not usually as simple as, just steal someone’s card.

        Also, you can just go to your bank or credit union, call them, report online or w/e: Hey, my card got stolen, these txns are fraud.

        Might not be as streamlined or as fast as a payment challenge with a credit card, but its not that much worse.

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        Well not to stop it before it happens, surely, but an easier time reclaiming your money due to the buffer.

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        But is it really worth all of the junk that you have to accept? I like the credit scoring, the monthly subscription, and, if you miss the date for paying back, the absurdly high fees. Well, yes, with the debit card you have, technically speaking, the risk of someone being able to make about 100€ worth of RFID payments, and then the code is needed again for the next 100€ RFID payments. For everything else that doesn’t involve RFID, the code is needed always.

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          The US implementation of chip and PIN left off the PIN. The reason given was “no one wants to put in a PIN every time” so for the vast majority of transactions you just hold up your card to the sensor or put it in the chip reader. PIN is only required for cash withdrawals in my experience.

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          What junk? Works same as a debt card but just not directly tied to a checking account, so less a big deal if it is lost or false charges made on it with companies reversing it. Get cashback on purchases, additional warranty on items, and able to do charge backs if company isn’t giving you a refund for whatever reason.

          Most people who run into trouble are because they don’t realize credit cards aren’t free money so go beyond their budget. If you spend what you can afford and pay back each month question becomes more why should a debit card be used over a credit card?

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      Because many people don’t actually have the money on hand. Some do but me and many others are spending money we don’t have yet. It’s a negative feedback loop of debt because capitalism sucks

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        15 days ago

        A lot of platforms literally don’t support debit cards.

        You can get a Visa debit card from your bank; everyone takes Visa.

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      Fiscally responsible people do it because of the cash back/perks and 0% interest.

      Fiscally irresponsible people do it because ‘free money’ (ignoring the 28% annual interest).

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      I buy stuff for work with my personal card and I’ve made probably thousands of dollars from the cash back. Even on my regular cards I get a couple hundred back off of stuff I normally buy.

      There’s other benefits too like using points to buy plane tickets, fancy lobbies in the airport with free food, etc.